here goes...I was seething yesterday about Cubillas being so low down

How our judges made their choices

? To begin with, Guardian staff compiled a longlist of more than 150 players who have left a mark on the World Cup finals to help our judges make their selection.

So no idea why Messi is in the top 100. I also think Gascoigne could be higher, since moving to South America it actually surprises how many people here remember him and talk about his performances in 1990 like we do about South American players.

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Posted By: Brandonio on May 28th 2014 at 13:28:07

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Now they're just trolling (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 11:41:26
- I have stopped looking at it because its a wind up. (n/m) (Other Football) - Pit, May 28, 13:49:01
  - here the key phrase from their 'how we compiled the list' notes (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 14:00:27
    - I guess. But Messi has done nothing in a world cup. (n/m) (Other Football) - Pit, May 28, 14:04:24
      - some jusges clear; (n/m) (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 14:05:09
        
        clearly aren't using that as a criteria (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 14:14:54
        
        agree. (n/m) (Other Football) - Pit, May 28, 14:25:43
- VaVa (Other Football) - Surrey Yella, May 28, 12:35:10
  - number 57 (n/m) (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 13:53:22
    - Golden boot winner 62 I think (Other Football) - Surrey Yella, May 28, 14:33:10
    - I thought he meant Henry (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 13:58:54
      - I was trying to work that out. Lol. (n/m) (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 14:01:50
  - Not sure about that. (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:41:43
- Will any Englishmen make the top 20? (n/m) (Other Football) - Hendrikos, May 28, 12:24:12
  - Banks. (n/m) (Other Football) - Pit, May 28, 13:45:42
  - Shilts played in the most games for us. (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 13:44:30
  - Danny Mills. (n/m) (Other Football) - bird table, May 28, 12:48:45
  - Charlton, Moore. (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:25:39
- No Gerry Armstrong? (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, May 28, 12:19:59
  - Was just about to post about Fontaine (n/m) (Other Football) - Hendrikos, May 28, 12:23:48
  - Ah yes, Fontaine (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:22:20
    - I only half-jest (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, May 28, 12:27:42
      - One of the most amazing results in World cup history. (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:28:54
    - Fuck I love The World Cup. (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, May 28, 12:24:40
      - It will be hot, atmospheric and there will be no vuvuzelas (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:26:26
        
        hot for many games (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 13:31:26
        
        Ha - yes, keep forgetting. More like a continent than a country. (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 13:33:33
        
        a rainy and drizzly copacabana... (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 13:35:26
        
        Yay. (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, May 28, 12:31:21
- What odds on the cheating, druggy, midget, Argie being number 1? (n/m) (Other Football) - Hendrikos, May 28, 12:03:27
  - The cheating fat cunt is bound to be no.1 (n/m) (Other Football) - Pit, May 28, 13:51:23
  - Hard to argue with him being no.1 really (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 12:04:27
    - Argentina cheated their way to two world cups. 1978 was just unreal cheating. (Other Football) - Pit, May 28, 13:53:36
      - FIFA chose the kick off time not Argentina (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 13:59:53
        
        Argentina told FIFA to change the kick off. Cheats. (Other Football) - Pit, May 28, 14:02:12
        
        well yes but that was before the tournament (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 14:09:33
        
        ..and I guess for the team to know where they stood ! (n/m) (Other Football) - Pit, May 28, 14:24:26
        
        *Branco not Dunga (n/m) (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 14:01:07
    - Pele will be number one (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:05:07
      - Pele, Maradona, Matthaeus, Zidane, Ronaldo. (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, May 28, 12:08:01
        
        Matthaeus? (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 12:46:40
        
        Becknbauer, Muller (n/m) (Other Football) - Pit, May 28, 13:48:28
        
        Played more games than anyone else. (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, May 28, 12:58:33
        
        he did (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 13:03:12
        
        Haha. (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, May 28, 13:12:03
        
        I think that Germany side gets unfairly maligned (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 13:16:30
        
        spot on, they were deserved winners (n/m) (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 13:28:52
        
        oh, they certainly had great players (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 13:26:41
        
        it wasn't a dive (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 13:42:45
        
        *unnecessary (n/m) (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 13:43:19
        
        A few more you could throw in as possibles... (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:11:08
        
        I reckon Eusebio will be in the top 5 (n/m) (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 12:43:43
        
        Cruijff - one tournament. (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, May 28, 12:16:09
        
        surely it isn't just based on performances in World Cups though? (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 12:41:37
        
        Well, that was my point. (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:43:20
        
        here goes...I was seething yesterday about Cubillas being so low down (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 13:28:07
        
        it's probably harder for players to make a mark now... (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 13:35:07
        
        that's true but many great World Cup players will be left out the list (Other Football) - Brandonio, May 28, 13:45:43
        
        yes, that's a problem witha ll these "top 100" lists (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 13:58:25
        
        Completely agree - good mention of Gerd Muller btw (Other Football) - mr carra, May 28, 12:45:18
        
        I think Cruyff will be the highest placed player not be on a winning side (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:18:25
        
        Apart from 1986, yeah. (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, May 28, 12:22:23
        
        Me too - great debate, nothing too serious. (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:23:41
- Lineker at 47 is laughable. How does Carlos Alberto get to 34 for 1 World Cup? (n/m) (Other Football) - Hendrikos, May 28, 12:01:58
  - Lineker did shit himself during a World Cup match though. Extra points for that. (n/m) (Other Football) - bird table, May 28, 12:51:39
  - He should be higher (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:04:36
  - You think Lineker should be higher or lower? (n/m) (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 12:03:38
    - Higher (at a lower number)! (n/m) (Other Football) - Hendrikos, May 28, 12:06:10
      - Lineker should be ranked higher but not at the expense of Carlos Alberto (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:06:39
        
        Rivelino at number 32 is only 2 places higher than Alberto. Would you put Alberto ahead (Other Football) - Hendrikos, May 28, 12:09:24
        
        well clearly this debate could go on forever but yes... (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:12:19
        
        World cup winner and player at 3 world cups Jurgen Klinsmann at 96! No sign whatsoever (Other Football) - Hendrikos, May 28, 12:22:59
- Ronaldo might not be in the list (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, May 28, 11:55:16
  - ? (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 11:58:20
- Yes! Roger Milla at 36! (n/m) (Other Football) - Hendrikos, May 28, 11:49:54
  - Coincidentally, that was his age last birthday. (n/m) (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, May 28, 12:11:17
- Hmmm. Well someone is... (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 11:46:11
  - You're missing the point (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 11:49:48
    - Messi (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 11:56:36
      - at the WORLD CUP. (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 11:59:02
        
        Haha. (n/m) (Other Football) - Garry Brooke, May 28, 12:04:15
    - ... (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 11:54:40
      - Oh, had no idea it was in the World Cup only. (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, May 28, 11:57:09
        
        the question is expressly stated to be open to interpretation (Other Football) - Charles21, May 28, 12:02:28
        
        Sorry, just seen this now. (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 11:59:39
      - Not a very clear question then (n/m) (Other Football) - Charles21, May 28, 11:56:33
        
        It's open to misinterpretation I suppose. (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:00:54
        
        yes, yes it is (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, May 28, 12:03:47
        
        Indeederoonie. (n/m) (Other Football) - norway, May 28, 12:05:58

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