the sad fact of the matter is that.....

all football clubs are run by bean counters who w**k over spreadsheets. They dont really give a f**k what goes on on the pitch, as long as the business is in growth financially and meets its financial targets to please shareholders. Its no different these days to an industrial commercial company.

As long as McNally makes money for the shareholders and shows growth, he's in a job.

Chances are we'll be a yo-yo club for years, due to the size of our support and financial constraints. Any plea for mega rich foreign owners is misguided too - no guarantee for success - see cardiff, leeds etc etc

accept what we are, a small provincial yoyo club who will have pain from relegation from the prem a few times but glory from the occassional promotion.

The cups dont even really enter the equation.......

Posted By: Cheltenham_Canary on May 7th 2014 at 13:04:30

Message Thread

How can I change the wat I feel or should I even try (NCFC) - lovely old job, May 7, 12:42:01
- we spent loads of money, just bought wrong and didnt have right manager (n/m) (NCFC) - robotbear, May 7, 14:51:45
- I'm 103, you know (NCFC) - Old Man, May 7, 13:19:24
- Sometimes the journey is better than the destination, I think the Prem is a fine example (NCFC) - BSE Canary, May 7, 13:18:23
- Man City are building 2 new stands. Go and buy a season ticket there. (n/m) (NCFC) - Trent_Canary, May 7, 13:15:53
  - Very disrespectful (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, May 7, 13:17:57
    - It's just a comment with no thought OG, I didn't expect to get a hard time I was just (NCFC) - lovely old job, May 7, 13:26:06
    - ....but funny. (n/m) (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 13:20:53
  - OK thanks I will. (n/m) (NCFC) - lovely old job, May 7, 13:16:45
- Well, I'm 47 (NCFC) - paulg, May 7, 13:10:30
- Have a few pints and a curry and a laugh with some mates (NCFC) - Real Man, May 7, 13:04:39
- 2 mates refused to renew after relegation to league 1, they regretted that soon enough. (NCFC) - Adster, May 7, 13:03:55
- Come on old chap, there'll be trolls-ahoy on here later loving stuff like that. (NCFC) - bird table, May 7, 13:01:54
- WTF? (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 12:54:06
  - Despite how jolly cwoss you seem most of the time at the mo... (NCFC) - Dandy Highburyman, May 7, 13:26:39
- the fire always returns (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 7, 12:52:41
- 10,000 empty seats... (n/m) (NCFC) - Upperjarroldmiddle, May 7, 12:49:33
  - What's Portman road got to do with it... (NCFC) - Pink un exile, May 7, 13:13:54
- Christ on a bike, might be best to stay away from sharp objects. (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, May 7, 12:48:27
- really????? (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 12:48:06
  - I don't understand this view. Most of our seasons in the Champ were shite. Next year could (NCFC) - Adster, May 7, 13:08:58
    - Hard as I try to remind myself of Peter Thorne and his Magic Surfboard (NCFC) - Old Git, May 7, 13:15:56
    - But that means you really need to support a club that win most of the time, and (NCFC) - CB41, May 7, 13:11:29
      - No, being a mid table prem team, taking a few scalps from the big boys each season and (NCFC) - Adster, May 7, 13:14:58
        
        yes but we're a million miles away from that. (n/m) (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 13:23:18
        
        that's all I ask for, I don't expect a top 10 finish and winning every Cup and Europe. (n/m) (NCFC) - lovely old job, May 7, 13:19:24
        
        Well yes, but it would seem that takes far more money than we will ever have. (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, May 7, 13:17:29
        
        I disagree, a bit more steel in the boardroom and I think we could have been on our way (NCFC) - Adster, May 7, 13:22:13
        
        well yes, but almost certainly back in the same struggle next season (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:35:38
        
        That's why I am angry and frustrated we had a great foundation in place (NCFC) - lovely old job, May 7, 13:32:20
    - but you need a run of shite to make the winning proper enjoyable (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 7, 13:11:26
      - This year has been a bit shite. Staying up by the skin of our teeth and competing (NCFC) - Adster, May 7, 13:17:29
        
        define the word and context you use the word "competing!" (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 13:19:06
        
        ... (NCFC) - Adster, May 7, 13:24:02
        
        that would be great in my view too..... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 13:27:02
        
        the other problem (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:55:29
        
        yep, but got more for their money, (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 14:09:34
        
        indeed, but every transfer is a bit of a gamble (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 14:24:45
      - vmt. (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 13:13:54
      - Yep, you've got to go there to come back... (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:13:10
    - so lets be honest here..... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 13:10:38
      - Let's hope so. But I'd rather be in the prem next year, plastic fans and all (n/m) (NCFC) - Adster, May 7, 13:12:57
        
        for the struggle all over a gain? waiting for the inevitable.... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 13:15:09
        
        and, for me, very few games available to go to, most of them at grounds (NCFC) - CB41, May 7, 13:19:11
        
        yes, because that's the most likely scenario and if you don't like it (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 7, 13:17:59
        
        no thanks, i'd prefer to support norwich in a league where we can win, (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 13:24:54
        
        so you're actively wishing relegation on us from the Premier League because you can't hand (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 7, 13:35:44
        
        I'm just wishing the torment of the last two seasons and impending relegation would just (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 13:44:36
        
        of course it would, but it would also be nicer if the impossible happened and we stayed up (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 7, 14:06:57
        
        cool, so there we have it..... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 14:11:26
        
        genuine question, would you prefer 3rd and los in the play-off semis to top 2 and the foll (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 7, 14:13:37
        
        *lose* (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 7, 14:13:59
        
        genuine answer...... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 14:45:08
        
        ah, that lack of long term thinking, that's so 'Little Old Norwich'... (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 7, 15:23:25
        
        yeah exciting..... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 16:04:06
        
        *argument boots* (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, May 7, 13:44:17
        
        *dull* (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 7, 14:07:26
  - Again there's a massive assumption it's going to be great fun (NCFC) - pants, May 7, 12:59:38
    - well at least we'll have more money than Burnley did (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:05:44
      - yep we had the chance to build and hughton and the board fucked up (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 7, 13:07:27
        
        honestly, was always likely to happen one day though (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:17:42
    - yes..... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 13:05:31
      - worse season ever this one (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 7, 13:07:52
        
        yep. awful. roederesque. (n/m) (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 13:11:14
        
        the funny thing about the Roeder/Gunn relegation season,, (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:30:15
        
        worse for me (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 7, 13:15:24
        
        Except Roeder didn't much to spend at all, hence the loans (NCFC) - pants, May 7, 13:13:32
        
        yep, and had one un-named ?8.5m player scored 5-6 we'd prob have enough points to survive. (n/m) (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 13:16:14
    - The Burnley fans I know have. They have very mixed feelings at mo - swing (NCFC) - CB41, May 7, 13:04:11
    - exactly (n/m) (NCFC) - lovely old job, May 7, 13:00:36
      - if we want definite fun and success, we should do a wolves and drop again (NCFC) - pants, May 7, 13:03:10
        
        who knows..... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 13:06:25
  - the ideal plan? (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 12:56:33
    - the sad fact of the matter is that..... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, May 7, 13:04:30
      - But if you study the Annual Reports the shareholders do not take money out. (NCFC) - trustsec, May 7, 13:22:04
      - But if you study the Annual Reports the shareholders do not take money out. (NCFC) - trustsec, May 7, 13:21:43
      - TBF the beancounters w**k over a spreadsheets for a reason (NCFC) - mr carra, May 7, 13:09:26
- REAL MAN, this is one for you ^^^^^ (n/m) (NCFC) - mike_the_sphinx, May 7, 12:45:01
  - thanks (n/m) (NCFC) - lovely old job, May 7, 12:46:53

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