experience means sweet f**k all as far as I can tell when it comes to management

McClaren was a disaster at Forest, did brilliantly at Derby, that ginger t**t at Birmingham did s**t at Villa and s**t at Forest.

Billy Davies did s**t at Forest 2nd time round.

It's not ALL down to the manager. You either have good signings and good players, or you don't. You either have luck or you don't.

Lambert is suddenly a useless manager at Villa. Nobody looks at the bigger picture. Adams could be s**t, he could be great, but we JUST DON'T KNOW.

Posted By: Charles21 on May 4th 2014 at 18:59:19

Message Thread

lets go with Adams, and see at xmas. (NCFC) - shoddy, May 4, 18:51:06
- No. (n/m) (NCFC) - Thegelman, May 4, 19:17:12
  - Come on you want hughton back xxxxxx (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, May 4, 20:41:48
- no thanks. not convinced me. (NCFC) - Dirty Delia, May 4, 19:09:50
  - Children ? pillock (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, May 4, 20:42:52
- No thanks he messed up not starting Tettey v Fulham & Liverpool (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 4, 18:57:15
  - One mistake - how many did we forgive hughton for ... (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, May 4, 20:43:46
- Involved but not in charge, I say (NCFC) - King, May 4, 18:57:09
  - Malky wasted far more money than Hoots (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 4, 19:03:46
    - I don't know, he made some astute purchases as well (NCFC) - phrankin, May 4, 19:06:18
    - Did he? (NCFC) - King, May 4, 19:05:39
      - Here... (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 4, 19:09:40
        
        You're missing my point (NCFC) - King, May 4, 19:14:32
        
        Don't want Malky or Adams to get the top job yet (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 4, 19:24:46
        
        and in defense of Cornelious, was he ever even fully fit for them? (NCFC) - phrankin, May 4, 19:19:26
        
        Caulker has been great for them. Odemwingie is starring for Stoke (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, May 4, 19:11:16
  - I wouldn't necessarily be averse to Adams, but you've hit the nail on the head for me ther (NCFC) - Yellalee, May 4, 19:02:35
    - I'm never so sure how much a manager influences signings (NCFC) - Charles21, May 4, 19:03:36
      - Yeah I guess. But you do hear a lot of "joined because of X" (NCFC) - Yellalee, May 4, 19:06:21
        
        I suppose so (NCFC) - Charles21, May 4, 19:08:11
- Madness. Utter, utter madness. We get 2 years of parachute payments; we can't waste them (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 4, 18:56:37
  - With respect BIGFELLER (NCFC) - shoddy, May 4, 19:03:02
    - Hehe - I like to see things from different perspectives :) But you have a point for sure (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 4, 19:04:08
      - we all want the best. (n/m) (NCFC) - shoddy, May 4, 19:07:55
    - BigFlipFlopper (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, May 4, 19:04:00
  - experience means sweet fuck all as far as I can tell when it comes to management (NCFC) - Charles21, May 4, 18:59:19
    - vmt (n/m) (NCFC) - AllezLesJaunes, May 4, 19:08:58
    - yep, so fucking tired of the lame experiece argument (n/m) (NCFC) - SeattleSounders, May 4, 19:00:56
      - So the top clubs shouldn't appoint an experienced manager then. They should give it to any (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 4, 19:03:12
        
        We are not a top club, we are not going to have choices (NCFC) - SeattleSounders, May 4, 19:08:03
        
        also, Steve Clarke was for a season touted as a top young manager (NCFC) - Charles21, May 4, 19:10:53
        
        Agreed (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 4, 19:28:41
        
        Now this I like - with one caveat. Rosler oversees marvellous football (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 4, 19:10:20
        
        is it? (NCFC) - Charles21, May 4, 19:11:48
        
        Two seasons if they lose in the play-offs having already lost an FA Cup semi (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 4, 19:12:50
        
        that is incredibly harsh (NCFC) - Charles21, May 4, 19:14:27
        
        Rosler also got good experience and proved himself in the lower leagues (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, May 4, 19:11:32
        
        Yep, so would I, I think (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, May 4, 19:13:30
        
        The point is, they are out there, the Board's job is to find (NCFC) - SeattleSounders, May 4, 19:16:54
        
        Not many managers about have never failed anywhere (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, May 4, 19:18:51
        
        Di Matteo (n/m) (NCFC) - stantheman, May 4, 19:07:17
        
        No other club in the top two divisions would dream of appointing? (NCFC) - duke of york, May 4, 19:05:44
        
        You think another club in the top 2 divisions would appoint Neil Adams as manager? Really? (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 4, 19:09:28
        
        no club would appoint Neil Adams, obviously (NCFC) - Charles21, May 4, 19:13:12
        
        In what way is he different to Garry Monk? (NCFC) - duke of york, May 4, 19:12:25
        
        I would say there is a bit of a difference between appointing (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, May 4, 19:18:13
        
        Haha, why do we have no stylistic identity (NCFC) - duke of york, May 4, 19:20:48
        
        i see you're trying to score cheap points, instead of engaging in a proper discussion (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, May 4, 19:29:38
        
        He is a hughton in dick - as per lambo he has gone thank fuck deal with it (NCFC) - Men without hats, May 4, 20:49:11
        
        Yes, you are *always* right (NCFC) - duke of york, May 4, 19:33:12
        
        ok - just a difference of opinion (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, May 4, 19:35:49
        
        Dick (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, May 4, 20:49:55
        
        lol (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, May 4, 19:24:40
        
        Jim Magilton? Happens far more the we realise i suspect. (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, May 4, 19:08:38
        
        They only appointed him because they were skint. And they failed. (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 4, 19:11:25
        
        David Moyes? (NCFC) - Charles21, May 4, 19:04:32
        
        Louis Van Gaal? He's got experience of winning things. (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 4, 19:05:33
        
        Neil Adams. He's also got experience of winning things. (NCFC) - Yellalee, May 4, 19:07:36
        
        Mike Walker? (NCFC) - Charles21, May 4, 19:06:38
        
        Got a job at a Cypriot club, never came back. (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, May 4, 19:10:16
        
        Very true. But this is a different sport nowadays. It'll never happen like that again for (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 4, 19:07:35
        
        Vialli? Ruud Gullit? (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, May 4, 19:08:48
        
        Sherwood? (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, May 4, 19:08:58
        
        With examples like Sherwood or Giggs (the latter isn't getting the job anyway), you're (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 4, 19:14:36
        
        Until yesterday's defeat (NCFC) - duke of york, May 4, 19:16:34
        
        He's hated by their fans. Rightly. He's a joke. "Tactics? What tactics?" (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 4, 19:20:06
        
        Anyway, it's all irrelevant really (NCFC) - duke of york, May 4, 19:22:27
        
        too late (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, May 4, 19:25:00
        
        Sherwood got given the gig, that's my point (NCFC) - Charles21, May 4, 19:16:10
        
        Ryan Giggs? (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, May 4, 19:09:22
  - Experience didn't work too well for Hughton (n/m) (NCFC) - SeattleSounders, May 4, 18:58:07
    - He got Newcastle promoted (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, May 4, 19:00:25
      - And us relegated, your point? (n/m) (NCFC) - SeattleSounders, May 4, 19:01:37
  - Meanwhile, Swansea are giving Garry Monk the job full time (NCFC) - duke of york, May 4, 18:57:37
    - And they're stupid to do so. Down they will go - albeit, their system there is so long (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 4, 19:00:20
      - They might do, yes (NCFC) - duke of york, May 4, 19:03:11
        
        Yep this is where I am. My bigger concern is I like to be able to trust (NCFC) - Yellalee, May 4, 19:11:12
        
        Yes, but we don't have much choice (NCFC) - duke of york, May 4, 19:15:47
    - are they? (n/m) (NCFC) - Huge Small, May 4, 18:59:48
      - Apparently will be announced this week (NCFC) - duke of york, May 4, 19:00:55
        
        *sigh* (n/m) (NCFC) - Huge Small, May 4, 19:10:45
- ok (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, May 4, 18:53:38
- Would be a decent fallback hire (NCFC) - SeattleSounders, May 4, 18:52:59
- no (n/m) (NCFC) - Huge Small, May 4, 18:52:25
  - His tactics were spot on today Small! (n/m) (NCFC) - DrDublin, May 4, 18:53:43
    - For a bit. And he got the players working for him (NCFC) - Huge Small, May 4, 19:07:52
      - lols he always gave me time and good answers on Canary call. Yeah, I do like himm, bet .. (NCFC) - DrDublin, May 4, 19:12:12
      - Divisive (NCFC) - duke of york, May 4, 19:09:15
        
        I think Malky would be a far more popular appointment than Neil (NCFC) - Huge Small, May 4, 19:25:35
    - Other than needing a win and not gambling in the last few minutes (n/m) (NCFC) - Ben, May 4, 18:57:51
      - VVMT he's not some tactical genius (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 4, 19:01:26
        
        ?? (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, May 4, 19:02:52
- would be a disaster (n/m) (NCFC) - Darren Eadie, May 4, 18:52:00
  - But what makes you think he's the right man for the job (NCFC) - Mickdundee, May 4, 19:04:15
  - People who proclaim that this or that manager would be a disaster (NCFC) - duke of york, May 4, 18:56:54
    - No doy - people KNOW. they just KNOW. how could they not, when said with such certainty? (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, May 4, 19:00:43
    - vmt (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, May 4, 19:00:12
  - how do you know? (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, May 4, 18:53:56
  - Im not sure, surely he is far more tactically aware than Gunn (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, May 4, 18:53:07
    - damning with faint praise (n/m) (NCFC) - Mecagoenti, May 4, 18:54:18
      - lol. I think I'd be disappointed if I didn't have that said about me tbh. (NCFC) - Yellalee, May 4, 19:04:17
- 100 percent agree (n/m) (NCFC) - eddie, May 4, 18:51:46

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