They were not given a free vote at all

The Tories and Lib Dems were all worked on by Government whips. If it was a free vote, the PM would have said as much beforehand, reflecting on the 'conscience' of individual MPs being paramount. This did not happen.

Posted By: norway on August 30th 2013 at 15:30:30

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Interesting that both Tory and Lib Dem MP's were free to vote as they wished last night... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Aug 30, 15:23:12
- They were not given a free vote at all (General Chat) - norway, Aug 30, 15:30:30
  - It was not a three line whip and whips will always work on their MP's in ANY free vote! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Aug 30, 15:49:15
    - So, tories being whipped (except you said they weren't) = fine & usual (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Aug 30, 15:51:05
      - Tories and Lib Dems were not whipped, Labour were..... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Aug 30, 15:55:26
        
        Unless it's a free vote, they are ALL whipped (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Aug 30, 16:01:21
        
        care to produce a source which says Labour were whipped but Tories weren't? (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 30, 16:00:12
        
        Can any of you produce anything to the contrary? (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Aug 30, 16:04:45
        
        Labour whippeed.....see here! (General Chat) - Kirrie, Aug 30, 16:04:12
        
        I don't think anyone said Labour weren't whipped, you were saying Tories/Dems weren't (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Aug 30, 16:06:16
  - ...and if it WAS a free vote (General Chat) - norway, Aug 30, 15:34:21
    - Probably (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Aug 30, 15:36:36
- eh? was a 3-line Tory whip, wasn't it? (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 30, 15:30:27
  - It was not a 3 line whip for the Tories and according to any source you care to read today (General Chat) - Kirrie, Aug 30, 15:46:45
    - Not sure you are reading your sources very well (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Aug 30, 15:49:33
      - To what do you refer? (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Aug 30, 15:58:34
        
        That nonsense about who was given a free vote (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Aug 30, 15:59:54
        
        None of you have produced anything to refute what I say! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Aug 30, 16:03:06
        
        Refute that it was a free vote for the tories/lib dems? (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Aug 30, 16:05:23
        
        Yes..... and regardless a total of 39 voted against the Govt! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Aug 30, 16:10:57
        
        It wasn't a free vote for the Tories, it was a whipped vote, and 39 voted against the whip (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Aug 30, 16:12:10
        
        Where is your evidence, show me where is says that anywhere today!? (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Aug 30, 16:14:18
        
        Wales Online citing Guto Bebb, Conservative MP (General Chat) - Johnny Comecardiff, Aug 30, 16:39:08
        
        That it was a whipped vote? or that 30 Tories voted against the whip (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Aug 30, 16:15:29
        
        Rebels: CAUTION DAILY MAIL LINK INCOMING (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Aug 30, 16:16:55
        
        Whipped vote: they all are to some extent, unless a free vote (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Aug 30, 16:16:31
        
        Sorry 39 coalition, 30 Tories (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Aug 30, 16:13:03
      - Why is that people always use bad language on hear when the can't (General Chat) - Kirrie, Aug 30, 15:56:27
  - They were definitely whipped (General Chat) - norway, Aug 30, 15:31:22

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