Aye, Blair wouldn't have bothered with all that Parliamentary Democracy nonsense...

and yes, fair play to Dave for going to the vote. What I can't work out is, how did Dave so utterly misjudge the mood of the nation and his party?

Posted By: Hertz van Rental on August 30th 2013 at 11:28:06

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There's bad bastards on both sides in Syria, it a total 'no win'.... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Aug 30, 09:29:59
- agreed but surely the world cant turn a blind eye to gassing children (General Chat) - sotoncanary, Aug 30, 10:16:06
  - Because the point is that nobody knows who is gassing children (General Chat) - Jim, Aug 30, 11:03:05
    - Re: for some bizarre reason we have appeared obsessed with launching military strikes... (General Chat) - Johnny Comecardiff, Aug 30, 11:49:12
    - Aye, Blair wouldn't have bothered with all that Parliamentary Democracy nonsense... (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Aug 30, 11:28:06
  - why pick on gassing children? (General Chat) - mr carra, Aug 30, 10:35:58
    - And they've been doing it for month (allegedly). Why THIS gassing? (n/m) (General Chat) - trafford_canary, Aug 30, 14:42:20
    - yes gassing is worse (General Chat) - sotoncanary, Aug 30, 12:13:26
    - Bombing kids is fine! The UN and genes convention view the 2 differently. (n/m) (General Chat) - admckechnie, Aug 30, 10:39:44
  - What about executing kids in the street in the name of Blasphemy? (General Chat) - Maillot Jaune, Aug 30, 10:34:16
  - That's why Milliband's political expediency is so sickening.... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Aug 30, 10:24:38
    - Yeah, that's the real kick in the balls. We are having a near sensible debate (General Chat) - admckechnie, Aug 30, 10:28:44
      - Don't forget it was Tories who effectively derailed Cameron (General Chat) - duke of york, Aug 30, 10:30:58
        
        That wouldn't have mattered if Milliband hadn't changed tack mid stream! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Aug 30, 10:37:45
        
        Yeah, we should all just charge headlong in to war. No thinking, no changing minds (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Aug 30, 10:50:21
  - Yep. And for parliament to completely dismiss the possibility is crazy. (n/m) (General Chat) - admckechnie, Aug 30, 10:17:18
    - But who is going to stop the "rebels" using gas, as they've been doing all year, as (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 30, 10:19:38
      - Have they been using gas, not sure on that mate. Was it ur (General Chat) - admckechnie, Aug 30, 10:26:37
        
        Not really conspiracy. Just have a bit more background than you do... (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 30, 10:36:09
        
        You pompous little prick. (n/m) (General Chat) - admckechnie, Aug 30, 10:36:54
        
        Well it wasn't intended that way. So sorry if it came across like that but I've (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 30, 10:47:13
        
        Perhaps because even her own UN Commission distanced itself from her remarks? (General Chat) - CWC, Aug 30, 11:35:56
        
        Turkey found Sarin in the hands of the Islamists they support... then they didn't. (General Chat) - phrankin, Aug 30, 11:39:09
        
        You can get a lovely kebab in Adana. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 30, 11:55:43
- For what it's worth (General Chat) - admckechnie, Aug 30, 10:13:51
  - All opinion polls showed that the majority of the public were against intervention (n/m) (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Aug 30, 10:49:19
  - How do we know it is the government forces using it? (General Chat) - Maillot Jaune, Aug 30, 10:19:04
    - Well on this occasion, it's quite clear. Jets (that rebels don't have) were (General Chat) - admckechnie, Aug 30, 10:25:05
      - yeah the rebels don't have them do they... (General Chat) - phrankin, Aug 30, 11:27:30
        
        does that make Assad's use of the weapon any less reprehensible? (General Chat) - CWC, Aug 30, 11:42:40
        
        Well, assuming Assad did order the attack.... doubtful anyway (General Chat) - phrankin, Aug 30, 13:52:41
  - Paragraphs would be good huh? (n/m) (General Chat) - admckechnie, Aug 30, 10:18:09
- Sunni vs Alewite (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 30, 10:02:15
  - Erm, the Alewites are Shias, thats why Iran and Hezbollah back Assad! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Aug 30, 10:04:37
    - Hmmm. A Shia sect I guess. Offshoot. But only part of the full group of Shi'ites. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 30, 10:11:16
- Military intervention should be on the same basis as medical (General Chat) - woody, Aug 30, 09:48:20
  - My point is that people will die, probably in similar numbers, whatever we do! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Aug 30, 09:50:01
    - Then we hould nothing! (General Chat) - Maillot Jaune, Aug 30, 09:58:48
      - Democracy - you must be joking...... (General Chat) - Kirrie, Aug 30, 10:03:35
        
        to paraphrase someone... people have to go through tyranny, monachism, despotism and (General Chat) - Maillot Jaune, Aug 30, 10:13:42
        
        That person also considered democracy a stepping stone to Communism (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 30, 10:18:26
        
        and maybe in a more enlightened time it will but until Human (General Chat) - Maillot Jaune, Aug 30, 10:23:49
        
        As the missus says, anyone who tells you they are mixing (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 30, 10:12:20
        
        It certainly seems that way,especially in Egypt,the muslim brotherhood seem to think as th (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Aug 30, 10:51:48
      - If Assad goes, it will be even worse than North Africa. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Aug 30, 10:03:26
      - bugger....should do nothing (n/m) (General Chat) - Maillot Jaune, Aug 30, 09:59:58

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