Several points on that
First, I don?t agree that Cameron is conflating illegal and legal porn.? He?s set out the difference clearly, and has proposed different measures to deal with each of them.? I agree with him that access to legal porn should be controlled (as I suspect most parents do), and think that the idea of having to ?opt in? is a good one.? It leaves the stuff accessible but imposes a gateway.
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Second, it?s a counsel of despair to say ?let?s do nothing about what you can get through Google because most of the bad stuff is on the dark net?.? Let?s deal with what can easily be dealt with.? Most people can?t use the dark net, but they can use Google.? That?s what Stuart Hazell did:? ?violent forced rape? etc.? Below you ask if typing those words into google should be illegal, which rather suggests you haven?t even read the Telegraph blog you linked to, since he explains that this is what is done already
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Third, if you don?t like the Mail?s research into the availability of rape porn, try this research from the Guardian User Posted Link (?It's true. People don't realise. Or at least I didn't. After reading the?Mail article, I type "rape porn" into Google to find more articles on the subject. But "rape porn" doesn't bring up articles on the subject. It brings up videos of women being raped. All but one of the top five results on Google are for mainstream porn sites that host videos ? click, click, and you're there ? of women being raped by men. There's vaginal rape, oral rape, anal rape, often all three together. Some of the videos are "simulated", acted, and some of them aren't. They show actual women being actually raped?)
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Let me reverse your question.? Do you think it?s acceptable for a society that you should be able to type ?violent forced rape? into a search engine?? I don?t
Posted By: Old Git on July 22nd 2013 at 14:36:17
Message Thread
- FAO OG, interesting blog from a Torygraph tech writer (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jul 22, 14:02:05
- Several points on that (General Chat) - Old Git, Jul 22, 14:36:17
- ok, don't really have the time for this, such a post probably deserves a better response (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jul 22, 15:37:07
- The lengths The Sun went to for info of celebrity break-ups (General Chat) - Fozzie, Jul 22, 15:59:07
- Could they get MPs' names who've opted in under FOI? (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Jul 22, 15:59:45
- I think we can guess which option Jacqui Smith's household is choosing (n/m) (General Chat) - Fozzie, Jul 22, 16:09:18
- How many households will there be where both partners agree on opt in or opt out? (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Jul 22, 16:11:29
- How many household will there be (General Chat) - norway, Jul 22, 16:14:44
- 9 (n/m) (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Jul 22, 16:13:25
- How many households will there be where both partners agree on opt in or opt out? (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Jul 22, 16:11:29
- I think we can guess which option Jacqui Smith's household is choosing (n/m) (General Chat) - Fozzie, Jul 22, 16:09:18
- Could they get MPs' names who've opted in under FOI? (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Jul 22, 15:59:45
- The lengths The Sun went to for info of celebrity break-ups (General Chat) - Fozzie, Jul 22, 15:59:07
- Not sure how to make an argument against this ridiculous scheme without basically saying (General Chat) - Fozzie, Jul 22, 14:43:06
- Ha ha! (General Chat) - Old Git, Jul 22, 14:57:13
- Thing is it will do much more than block "porn" (General Chat) - Fozzie, Jul 22, 15:06:44
- Ha ha! (General Chat) - Old Git, Jul 22, 14:57:13
- Do parental filter programmes not achieve the same aim of creating a barrier (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jul 22, 14:40:40
- Porn filters should be on routers (General Chat) - Trent_Canary, Jul 22, 16:45:42
- They are much more difficult to apply (General Chat) - Old Git, Jul 22, 14:48:26
- More difficult to apply than a nationwide list for every single adult who wants to (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jul 22, 14:52:34
- Huh? (General Chat) - Old Git, Jul 22, 14:59:32
- Soz, yeah, shit point (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jul 22, 15:04:33
- It's not the government's job to raise some shitty parent's ugly spawn (General Chat) - Fozzie, Jul 22, 15:13:05
- Children aren't necessarily seeing porn at home though (General Chat) - norway, Jul 22, 15:12:53
- mobile phone companies already filter content (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jul 22, 15:41:04
- Didn't kids of the 70's to 90's first experience porn from magazines left in bushes (General Chat) - Fozzie, Jul 22, 15:16:00
- lolf (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Jul 22, 15:19:58
- Bring back the Bongo Bush of Joy ! (n/m) (General Chat) - Huge Small, Jul 22, 15:18:48
- Poor blighters - simply no idea what a 'Razzle Stack' is. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Jul 22, 15:20:37
- I believe it was a 'Pile Up'.... (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jul 22, 15:22:26
- Poor blighters - simply no idea what a 'Razzle Stack' is. (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Jul 22, 15:20:37
- Soz, yeah, shit point (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jul 22, 15:04:33
- hang on, I've thought of a solution (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jul 22, 14:58:23
- Huh? (General Chat) - Old Git, Jul 22, 14:59:32
- More difficult to apply than a nationwide list for every single adult who wants to (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jul 22, 14:52:34
- I do agree though that ISPs. search engines should be doing all they can to block (General Chat) - Hertz van Rental, Jul 22, 14:47:06
- But forcing your ideals on others who don't agree is the entire point of pressure groups. (n/m) (General Chat) - Fozzie, Jul 22, 14:44:08
- But that's what government does, isn't it? No smoking under 16. No hunting. No cannabis. (General Chat) - Old Git, Jul 22, 15:16:23
- It's what they're meant to do. (General Chat) - Fozzie, Jul 22, 15:49:36
- But that's what government does, isn't it? No smoking under 16. No hunting. No cannabis. (General Chat) - Old Git, Jul 22, 15:16:23
- ok, don't really have the time for this, such a post probably deserves a better response (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Jul 22, 15:37:07
- I hope someone asks Dave in parliament if he's going to opt in, and if he doesn't... (General Chat) - Fozzie, Jul 22, 14:36:16
- "torygragh", "daily heil"........ (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 22, 14:05:08
- Those newspapers certainly nail their political colours to the mast (General Chat) - duke of york, Jul 22, 14:16:08
- As do the Mirror / Guardian etc; theirs is just a different mast! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 22, 14:55:19
- they do..... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 22, 14:20:08
- lol perhaps he should read the mirror for some unbiased reporting eh? (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Jul 22, 14:19:08
- whoosh. (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 22, 14:23:17
- It's nothing to do with off of on of out of on here though is it (General Chat) - Old Man, Jul 22, 14:28:03
- again.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 22, 14:30:57
- ...the OP was just drawing attention to a good piece written by a Telegraph writer (General Chat) - Old Man, Jul 22, 14:33:57
- Well said that man; absolutely agree with you! (n/m) (General Chat) - Kirrie, Jul 22, 14:53:52
- Chelts - is your annoyance at the roth's leftie bias going to be the only thing you post (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jul 22, 14:32:50
- Oh yes (General Chat) - Tressells Broadbrush, Jul 22, 14:43:09
- its (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 22, 14:52:12
- its (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 22, 14:46:46
- no.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 22, 14:41:44
- Tsk. Typical communist response. (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Man, Jul 22, 14:34:45
- Oh yes (General Chat) - Tressells Broadbrush, Jul 22, 14:43:09
- ...the OP was just drawing attention to a good piece written by a Telegraph writer (General Chat) - Old Man, Jul 22, 14:33:57
- again.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 22, 14:30:57
- Not sure anything is as bad as the Mail tbh (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Jul 22, 14:24:08
- you could also say..... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 22, 14:27:25
- Oh I do (General Chat) - duke of york, Jul 22, 14:30:44
- agreed. (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 22, 14:32:01
- Oh I do (General Chat) - duke of york, Jul 22, 14:30:44
- you could also say..... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 22, 14:27:25
- It's nothing to do with off of on of out of on here though is it (General Chat) - Old Man, Jul 22, 14:28:03
- whoosh. (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jul 22, 14:23:17
- Those newspapers certainly nail their political colours to the mast (General Chat) - duke of york, Jul 22, 14:16:08
- Several points on that (General Chat) - Old Git, Jul 22, 14:36:17
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