Your position is overly simplistic

Too many different variables and scenarios to say it is never justified/defensible. I don't think the current law is too far wrong provided it is applied sensibly.

I would agree however that it is not "reasonable force" to shoot someone in the back as they are leaving your property. That crosses the line between using reasonable force to defend yourself and dishing out your own punishment.

Posted By: Jim on September 5th 2012 at 12:37:25

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What is it that some people have trouble understanding (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 5, 12:28:12
- If a intruder entered my house (General Chat) - Kojo, Sep 5, 13:52:34
- If someone broke into my house and there was any hint (General Chat) - Pixelman, Sep 5, 13:07:43
  - but then again you're sensible... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 5, 13:31:28
    - lol talk about from 1 extreme to the other (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 13:34:39
      - its everything in the middle as well..... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 5, 13:49:56
        
        nope everything in the middle isn't so clear cut (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 13:55:34
        
        Not really, you don't have to wait to be attacked to use forxe yourself. (n/m) (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Sep 5, 14:02:47
        
        you can rightfully restrain the individual even without him attacking you... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 5, 14:18:38
        
        he's just invaded your house (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 14:48:37
        
        no its not.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 5, 14:52:03
        
        yep most burglars just break in for a cosey chat (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 14:57:35
        
        most burglars (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 5, 15:03:17
        
        and all burglars are cunts who should be shot in the face (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 15:05:27
        
        thats fine to think that. (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 5, 15:07:59
        
        yep just wait til the robber tells you he's fully armed (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 14:06:48
        
        Not at all. (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Sep 5, 14:17:22
        
        get in!!!!!!!!!!!! (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 14:46:46
        
        *defensive* (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 5, 14:19:10
        
        oh great so we can try to use our hands to block the bullets or knife (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 14:47:34
        
        no... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 5, 14:49:54
        
        so you can only feel threatened by a gun or a knife (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 14:59:49
        
        no.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 5, 15:05:42
        
        ok scum lover (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 15:11:00
        
        actually, i'm just a "law abider", which clearly you arent... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 5, 15:14:19
        
        you support the scum (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 15:23:24
        
        ah! by the term "scum" in THIS context, I thought you were referring to burglars... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 5, 15:27:59
        
        lol ffs no (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 15:35:20
        
        good. (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 5, 15:38:57
        
        Some may take the view that striking the first blow was in itself an offensive (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Sep 5, 14:24:27
        
        sure... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 5, 14:35:15
        
        I'm referring to the householder striking the first blow. (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Sep 5, 14:39:35
        
        again.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 5, 14:46:14
        
        I was quoting from the CPS. (n/m) (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Sep 5, 14:48:56
        
        if... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 5, 14:53:41
        
        Out of context to what I copied from the CPS. Which is.. (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Sep 5, 14:58:27
        
        yes.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 5, 15:10:50
        
        **Force, Brom etc. (n/m) (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Sep 5, 14:04:41
        
        the words... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 5, 14:37:16
        
        Accidental board violation? It's a fair cop your honour. (n/m) (General Chat) - mike_the_sphinx, Sep 5, 14:40:18
        
        but society is to blame (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 5, 14:54:10
        
        should be struck down anyway, at the tax payers expense. (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Sep 5, 14:55:42
- perceived threat, they may kill me, or my family (General Chat) - phrankin, Sep 5, 13:06:44
- Gotcha (General Chat) - Tressells Broadbrush, Sep 5, 13:02:53
  - When Tony Martin shot his intruders, they were actually caught (General Chat) - phrankin, Sep 5, 13:05:14
- Your position is overly simplistic (General Chat) - Jim, Sep 5, 12:37:25
- Pensioner beaten and tied up by burglars left to die (General Chat) - phrankin, Sep 5, 12:35:16
- Simple: nobody has any"difficulty" understanding that (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 5, 12:34:34
- You mean like this one? (General Chat) - phrankin, Sep 5, 12:31:56
  - he should have asked the burglar nicely to leave, (General Chat) - fal5taff, Sep 5, 12:35:22
    - lol (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 12:39:46
    - Or give them a Chinese burn (n/m) (General Chat) - duke of york, Sep 5, 12:39:28
  - If clement had shot the chap burgling his house, maybe he wouldn't be dead (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Sep 5, 12:33:30
- i fully agree (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 5, 12:30:29

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