Chris Hughton at Newcastle was an interesting one, as is Pardew.

A big part of the problem at Newcastle was a long-standing one - that the club had too many players who wanted to be running the team. Hughton dealt with it by forming a kind of senior players' council with which he worked very closely, and it brought the dressing room much closer together and put the club back on the right path.

It seemed that Hughton was the perfect fit for such a chaotic organisation, until Mike Ashley inexplicably sacked him. Alan Pardew was much derided as a replacement but he's kept up the decent results. I still wouldn't rate Pardew too highly though, even though he put an effective unit together at West Ham until the Tevez and Mascherano signings destablished things.

Admittedly I have no idea of what point I'm trying to make, except that football management isn't an exact science, very few managers have methods that would work everywhere and that sometimes counter-intuitive things work. I think.

Posted By: Ottosson Foxtrot on May 17th 2011 at 14:31:17

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Good piece on Wet Sham by Henry Winter (Other Football) - norway, May 17, 13:32:58
- Sulivan and Gold. (Other Football) - usacanary, May 17, 14:16:15
- the majority of Chelsea fans hate him (n/m) (Other Football) - Karnivore, May 17, 14:14:12
- Us appointing Peter or Hammers appointing Avram....or both? (n/m) (Other Football) - Kirrie, May 17, 14:10:02
- All comes down to who you listen to i suppose, Grant got Chelsea to champs league final (n/m) (Other Football) - samcd84, May 17, 13:48:05
  - My Mum could have got Chelsea to the Champs Lge Final with that team! (n/m) (Other Football) - Kirrie, May 17, 14:08:19
    - And yet Scolari..... (Other Football) - pants, May 17, 14:10:53
- This piece on Avram Grant is quite interesting ... (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, May 17, 13:41:50
  - So... in summary (Other Football) - norway, May 17, 15:36:28
  - That's a fantastic post, even if it contains the words Michael Heseltine and clitoris in t (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, May 17, 14:14:41
    - What was it like being part of the Moldovan eurovision entry? (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, May 17, 14:19:37
    - Twisted Blood is my favourite football blog, I think. Always intelligent and amusing. (n/m) (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, May 17, 14:18:51
  - would you welcome him to follow in langberts footsteps otto? (Other Football) - Tombs, May 17, 13:52:36
    - Would depend on the circumstances, I suppose. (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, May 17, 14:11:10
      - bryan gunn (n/m) (Other Football) - Tombs, May 17, 14:17:04
        
        No Gunn = No Langbert. (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, May 17, 14:22:53
        
        bloody excellent succession planning by smith (Other Football) - Tombs, May 17, 14:24:30
        
        His signing of Paul Langbert was a master stroke (n/m) (Other Football) - Dandy Highburyman, May 17, 14:22:31
        
        I think I'm invisible sometimes... (Other Football) - Dandy Highburyman, May 17, 14:24:15
        
        fierce panda? (n/m) (Other Football) - Tombs, May 17, 14:25:10
        
        *sigh* (n/m) (Other Football) - Dandy Highburyman, May 17, 14:25:09
      - jurgen klinsmann? (Other Football) - Tombs, May 17, 14:13:44
      - Capello (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, May 17, 14:12:28
        
        Ancelotti, Mourinho..... (n/m) (Other Football) - Karnivore, May 17, 14:15:03
        
        Yes, Mourinho has been staggeringly successful wherever he's managed... (Other Football) - Dandy Highburyman, May 17, 14:21:48
        
        It's a very small number though, isn't it? (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, May 17, 14:24:56
        
        Ramos at Sevilla (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, May 17, 14:49:39
        
        Yeah it's about a team but someone has to be the leader... (Other Football) - Dandy Highburyman, May 17, 14:26:50
        
        Chris Hughton at Newcastle was an interesting one, as is Pardew. (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, May 17, 14:31:17
        
        And that last paragraph: never a truer word spoken (or written).. (Other Football) - Dandy Highburyman, May 17, 14:35:51
        
        otto's correct though (Other Football) - Tombs, May 17, 14:29:03
        
        Oh yes, I am agreeing with Otto, but the leader has to be a good un... (Other Football) - Dandy Highburyman, May 17, 14:31:58
        
        alec fergusons (Other Football) - Tombs, May 17, 14:26:13
        
        Says a lot about our footballing set up (Other Football) - pants, May 17, 14:18:15
    - The media love to tout Grant up as a miserable draining non motivator (Other Football) - pants, May 17, 14:05:27
  - "A manager who is expert at guiding a winning and talented squad may collapse when asked t (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, May 17, 13:47:13
- Just like any organisation really, create a fall guy, and hide behind anyone elses (Other Football) - pants, May 17, 13:40:02
  - Agreed (Other Football) - Vivid Data Shark, May 17, 14:17:57
  - By class act I assume you mean talented footballer (n/m) (Other Football) - samcd84, May 17, 13:43:02
    - meant to be a bit of an arrogant cunt isn't he? (n/m) (Other Football) - Ralf Scrampton, May 17, 14:01:12
    - Yeah, also, same old with the media, I see Green's well away from the flack, (Other Football) - pants, May 17, 13:45:04
      - Hard to rate Greeno, really (Other Football) - Huge 5mal1, May 17, 13:56:06

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