Despite it paying my mortgage these days, I must agree. IT teams were far more

efficient, dedicated and creative before the project management craze kicked in.

Posted By: Steve in Holland on March 16th 2011 at 14:09:15

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i wonder if the japanese scientists have considered (General Chat) - Tombs, Mar 16, 13:08:31
- praps they sould pump concrete, rope and old tyres into it! (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Mar 16, 13:54:36
  - oh and golf balls - forgot them! (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Mar 16, 13:57:36
- What, the wave machine? (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Mar 16, 13:10:20
  - might have been everyone in china doing the old jumping off a chair at the same time thing (General Chat) - Tombs, Mar 16, 13:13:22
    - That would be really difficult to coordinate. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Mar 16, 13:33:30
      - Would require some strong project management skills. (General Chat) - tudders, Mar 16, 13:40:51
        
        People who go on about PRINCE2 should be gunned down in the street. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Mar 16, 13:51:31
        
        his first album was better (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Mar 16, 13:58:12
        
        yes (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 16, 13:57:04
        
        Yes. Prince 2 = Common sense + ?1,000. (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Mar 16, 13:56:07
        
        ^^^ This. (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Mar 16, 13:56:44
        
        I guess neither of you have done it then ? It's not a methodology but (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 16, 14:06:03
        
        Never done it. One of the project managers here has Done A Course on it (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Mar 16, 14:11:29
        
        I have foundation and practitioner. Taught me nothing of use. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 16, 14:12:24
        
        What, when, how, who, (General Chat) - tudders, Mar 16, 14:16:52
        
        Not really. Prince2 and similar try to keep you away from the How. (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 16, 14:37:24
        
        In fact, since I'm up on my high horse and enjoying the view, a significant proportion of (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Mar 16, 13:55:48
        
        Despite it paying my mortgage these days, I must agree. IT teams were far more (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 16, 14:09:15
        
        You sound like you know the difference though, between good effective project management, (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Mar 16, 14:14:50
        
        Sadly in most places good, effective project management is not rewarded. They (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 16, 14:18:30
        
        The only thing worse, in my opinion, (General Chat) - tudders, Mar 16, 14:01:41
        
        I've never met a Six Sigma person. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Mar 16, 14:09:21
        
        We've got them crawling all over the place. It's a process management thing. Yawn. (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Mar 16, 14:12:43
        
        Yeah, I've done some reading about it. It helps, I find, to know your enemies. (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Mar 16, 14:18:12
        
        extreme Origami (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Mar 16, 14:05:21
        
        I can make a paper bird that flaps its wings when you pull its tail. (n/m) (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Mar 16, 14:16:07
        
        cool (n/m) (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Mar 16, 14:23:59
        
        yes again (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 16, 13:57:18
      - they could do it over the radio (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Mar 16, 13:39:18

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