If you have more you can pay more so it doesn't hurt as much...

...more of less means less whichever way you look at it...plus if you have a packet you probably have legit accountants creating tax break after tax break...that's the s**t they should be sorting...

The poor, students etc are now the enemy for some reason which strikes me as disgusting...the s**t that people happily post on FB and Twatter about this is amazes me...I don't quite understand what's happened - when did it become OK to hold such extreme views on the less fortunate? Of those demonstrating for the less fortunate? Or for some kind of hope for the future?..

I find it all very odd and not at all gratifying...

And I am no raging lefty either.....

Posted By: Fierce Panda on December 22nd 2010 at 16:00:31

Message Thread

How long before they change their minds on this one? (General Chat) - Vivid Data Shark, Dec 22, 13:34:47
- actually selling off the wood land would generate revenue, reduce costs and give people (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Dec 22, 13:49:05
  - And they would all be used for valid public-interest activities (General Chat) - APB, Dec 22, 14:11:08
    - but they've got a great track record with selling off what belongs to the public (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 22, 14:20:38
      - ffs! (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 14:24:28
        
        the roots of Britain's current crisis go a lot deeper than the last 13 years (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 22, 14:27:18
        
        Exactly. There was an excellent article on that on the web a while ago written by a promin (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 22, 14:30:18
        
        I'd be interested to read that if you can find it Ceebee (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 22, 14:32:42
        
        I'll do another try. It was on the BBC website - not sure how far back their archives go (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 22, 14:35:12
        
        chairs, Any idea what his name was? (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 22, 14:38:00
        
        Fraid not. I think he was a professor at some university (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 22, 14:53:52
        
        right, that sounds pretty logical (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 22, 15:04:04
        
        but (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 14:31:37
        
        No. Like man made global warming, the policies of the last shower of tosspots were merely (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 22, 14:34:14
        
        you're (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 14:36:31
        
        That is exctly what I said (apart from the last bit and the jury is still out on that) (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 22, 14:54:50
        
        and thats camerons fault too?! (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 14:29:10
        
        who said it was? (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 22, 14:32:06
        
        the (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 14:33:29
        
        The big problem with the last governments economic policies (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Dec 22, 14:44:19
        
        ^^^ this plus the refusal to do anything about the housing bubble (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 22, 15:00:57
        
        Tories appear to be doing nothing?? (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 14:49:05
        
        I said "nothing about those" (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Dec 22, 14:54:59
        
        least they're doing something...... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 14:57:23
        
        The "something" they're doing is deliberately targetting those least able to pay (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Dec 22, 15:11:51
        
        disagree....... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 15:14:21
        
        If you have more you can pay more so it doesn't hurt as much... (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Dec 22, 16:00:31
        
        the poor, students etc seem to be the enemy now (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 16:10:34
        
        I have no problem with students contributing to their own costs... (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Dec 22, 16:25:59
        
        thats pretty unfair tbh...... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 16:36:00
        
        ... (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 22, 17:15:19
        
        exactly, I'm not sure where fighting unwinnable wars comes into the cost savings (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 22, 14:45:19
        
        of course not, useless cunts too. there seems to be fuck all difference between (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 22, 14:37:45
        
        Except for the ONE major difference...... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 14:40:56
        
        Labour wanted to continue spending for one more year before implenting their own savage cu (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 22, 15:10:17
        
        so... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 15:16:28
        
        or cut spending too early, choke off the recovery and end up increasing the debt by having (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 22, 15:25:36
        
        like i said before....... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 15:38:15
        
        It's not only the dead wood they want to get rid of. Oh !! (n/m) (General Chat) - Vivid Data Shark, Dec 22, 15:01:49
        
        dead wood = (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 15:04:30
        
        It was meant to be a pun on the original post. (n/m) (General Chat) - Vivid Data Shark, Dec 22, 15:10:29
        
        I sometimes think Chelts takes this forum far to seriously (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 22, 15:15:34
        
        i dont, i just didnt get the gag! whoosh! (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 15:20:08
        
        we shall see, the tories have always wanted to slash public spending anyway (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 22, 14:44:11
        
        The Shock Doctrine (n/m) (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Dec 22, 14:46:39
        
        EXACTLY!!! (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 14:45:42
  - I'm all for that, but that does seem very idealistic. (General Chat) - Vivid Data Shark, Dec 22, 14:09:05
    - if... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 14:13:22
  - Shhh! (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 13:51:49
    - There's a difference between people and American multi-national corporations answerable (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 22, 13:56:32
      - the (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 13:59:35
        
        Make the fucking bankers and corporate tax avoiders pay (n/m) (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Dec 22, 14:27:58
        
        agreed.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 14:29:52
        
        Oh Chelts, you are so, so wrong on this. (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 22, 14:02:01
        
        really? (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 14:03:27
        
        You didn't read that, did you? (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 22, 14:31:55
      - there is a lot of laws protecting the woodlands, and also that promote the replanting (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Dec 22, 13:58:39
  - or the ability of some foreign multi-national to cut down every (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 22, 13:51:07
    - what the fuck difference does it make if the multi-national is foreign owned or uk owned? (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 22, 13:53:44
      - Bloody hell, is it racist to dislike global multi-nationals (the clue's in the name) (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 22, 13:58:19
        
        you stated "foreign multi-nationals" and multi-national just means it operates in many cou (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 22, 14:05:05
    - theres already strict regulation in that area so that wouldnt be allowed to happen (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Dec 22, 13:52:59
      - the FOD is a national park, so yes. (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 13:56:44
        
        even before they reveal their proposals this is going to be a total gaffe (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 22, 14:05:00
        
        "They have no idea of the depth of resentment even suggesting this will cause" (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 22, 14:12:23
        
        if it came from Labour then I'm sure it'd generate just as much opposition (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 22, 14:22:47
        
        Gordon would have been gone by now even if Labour had won. F**k (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 22, 17:08:59
        
        as much opposition probably, but it wouldn't be the same people opposing it (n/m) (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 22, 14:29:35
        
        you're right, but I think people will feel strongly regardless of the political implicati (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 22, 14:34:44
        
        Yes, this ^^^ (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 22, 14:27:05
        
        they're only (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 14:08:58
        
        that's exactly what is GOOD about forests, they are "dormant"! (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 22, 14:42:53
        
        think you'll find (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 14:44:16
  - LOL, how silly of us, they're just thinking of the little people aren't they (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 22, 13:51:00
    - actually they are thinking of getting the country out of the mess we are left in (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Dec 22, 13:53:54
      - apparently, tony and gordon didnt leave Britain in a financial mess. (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 14:02:32
        
        if only the tories hadn't already sold off most of our other assets (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 22, 14:08:10
        
        last time?? (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 14:10:48
        
        the tories practically based their govenment around selling off everything (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 22, 14:25:20
        
        yes the tories sold off lots of failing companies..... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 14:28:26
        
        no, because after years of watching how they operate and knowing their mindset (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 22, 14:35:57
        
        do we? really? (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 14:37:55
        
        why do you insist that because I hate torie politics I must *love* labour? (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 22, 14:39:56
        
        i didnt.... (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 14:43:05
  - obviously would need tight regualtion to stop them getting the chop though (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Dec 22, 13:50:21
- the very fact that they admit to be considering it is enough to show they haven't changed (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 22, 13:47:48
  - They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum. (General Chat) - jafski, Dec 22, 14:22:37
    - xxl should make a museum out of all his NORWICH memoribilia (n/m) (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 14:26:11
      - No room big enough. (n/m) (General Chat) - jafski, Dec 22, 14:33:34
- Never a truer word spoken: (General Chat) - CB41, Dec 22, 13:43:02
  - got to say, i preferred this comment: (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 22, 13:50:53
    - ^ (General Chat) - Cheltenham_Canary, Dec 22, 14:16:08
- they had fucking better (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 22, 13:37:22
  - really? get a grip! worst thing ever done? don't think so some how 1980s nuff said. (n/m) (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Dec 22, 13:47:23
    - do you support the tories on every fucking thing they propose and do? (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 22, 13:49:18
      - wtf you on about? I just criticised them. read it again (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Dec 22, 13:51:41
        
        that was meant to be a reply to your post above (n/m) (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Dec 22, 13:53:34
  - nah, fuck 'em it's only a few fucking trees... (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 22, 13:41:39

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