I can't help but think that secretly...

the players are happier to be in the tougher half of the draw in that it takes the pressure off.

If they lose to Germany/Argentina etc they can still go out and be 'brave' failures (unless they're really sh*t, which obvoiously is a possibility) but they would be expected by the media to stuff Ghana/Uruguay/South Korea and so would set themselves up to get absolutely slaughtered when they go out.

The England squad mentality these days (largely thanks to media/public attitude) is governed more by fear than ambition - what is the worst that could happen? And going out to Germany or Argentina isn't the worst - going out to one of the 'lesser' teams is.

Posted By: mr carra on June 25th 2010 at 08:39:14

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Compare and contrast - Japanese vs us (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 25, 08:14:50
- erm (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 25, 10:24:28
  - right. Well I was right, others were wrong, then (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 25, 10:29:30
    - I think we just weren't good enough to get another (Other Football) - BerlinCanary, Jun 25, 10:43:55
      - we did hit the post (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 25, 10:49:19
      - Agree with that completely (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 25, 10:45:09
        
        Perhaps, though, the poverty of our ambition is dictated by our poverty of quality? (Other Football) - BerlinCanary, Jun 25, 10:51:12
        
        goalkeeping quality (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 25, 10:49:43
        
        I don't think you can score 2 goals in 3 games and claim you deserved to win the group (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 25, 10:51:07
    - at the end of the day we were playing to qualify (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 25, 10:35:34
      - As much as it pains me to know you agree with me... (Other Football) - Fierce Panda, Jun 25, 10:39:38
        
        the fewer good teams you have to play, the better your chances of winning it (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 25, 10:43:20
        
        yes that's all well and good but it's also aftertiming (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 25, 10:47:26
- Bit unfair on England and Denmark (Other Football) - BerlinCanary, Jun 25, 09:21:37
- we attacked most of the game (Other Football) - Charles21, Jun 25, 08:58:44
- didnt watch it...... (Other Football) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jun 25, 08:17:18
  - We played much better than previous game, obviously (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 25, 08:20:43
    - I can't help but think that secretly... (Other Football) - mr carra, Jun 25, 08:39:14
      - yeah, I thought the fear thing was really visible in teh last 20 minutes vs Slovenia (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 25, 08:52:59
        
        of course we were relieved (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 25, 10:37:34
        
        yeah, but if you were thinking a bit harder, you'd be asking yourself (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 25, 10:40:57
        
        the danes were pretty rubbish (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 25, 10:44:27
        
        I've seen a few comments about the game which made me wonder if I watched a different one (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 25, 10:46:35
        
        yes he made 2 outstanding saves (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 25, 10:50:31
        
        don't blame him for the goal, particularly, although a brilliant keeper might have stopped (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 25, 10:53:03
        
        Oh, there was the one when Gerrard side-footed it (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 25, 10:56:18
        
        and the terry header (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jun 25, 10:57:14
        
        Expectation on Japan is much lower (Other Football) - duke of york, Jun 25, 09:24:34
        
        HAMMER ON A TIN ROOF! HAMMER ON A TIN ROOF! MASSIVE SIREN NOISE! ARRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGAH! (Other Football) - tehwatch, Jun 25, 09:05:30
        
        ^^^^ Englander who always performs! (n/m) (Other Football) - BerlinCanary, Jun 25, 09:25:08
    - i heard.... (Other Football) - Cheltenham_Canary, Jun 25, 08:25:47

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