But they aren't

If you want to eat meat, they are inseparable

Either you buy meat from Chicken Auschwitz, or you have to procure it some other way. Hunting is one such way. From the animal's point of view, a wild life ending to a hunter's gun is far preferable to Chicken Auschwitz. From the human's point of view, why is it morally better to pay someone else to do your killing for you (which that person may or may not do well, and may or may not enjoy) than to do it yourself, and take pleasure in the hunt?

Anyway, I don't want to have a gay off, so I guess we may have to agree to differ! It would be a good debate over a pint if we ever met up.

Posted By: Old Git on March 17th 2010 at 17:38:30

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If I might add my sixpenneth on the mounting of animal heads (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Mar 17, 16:52:06
- BUT there is that very funny bit in Fawlty Towers where the Major thinks the stag's head (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Mar 17, 17:22:18
  - I can see how it might provide comedic value once every three or four years (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Mar 17, 17:26:24
    - Me too. Can't really understand how it can be a sentimental thing either tbh. (n/m) (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Mar 17, 17:29:43
      - It summed it up for me when I saw an interview with Sabbath guitarist Tony Iommi (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Mar 17, 17:32:43
- Without wanting to rekindle the veg-off (General Chat) - Old Git, Mar 17, 16:57:45
  - I think people find the idea of (General Chat) - jamesward, Mar 17, 17:30:17
    - ridiculous argument at the end there duke (General Chat) - Charles21, Mar 17, 17:51:25
  - if everybody hunted, we'd wipe out the relevant animals (General Chat) - JPM, Mar 17, 17:04:25
    - That really is a strikingly intolerant attitude of other people's pleasures (General Chat) - Old Git, Mar 17, 17:15:25
      - People struggle to understand the pleasure gained from killing wild animals (General Chat) - Huge Small, Mar 17, 17:29:17
        
        the thought of killing something with my own hands certainly makes me feel sick (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 17, 17:37:32
      - Agreed. It's a horrible dilemma. (General Chat) - JPM, Mar 17, 17:27:59
        
        Why doesn't it? (General Chat) - Old Git, Mar 17, 17:29:17
        
        Who said it was morally defensible to eat meat farmed in a horrible way? (General Chat) - JPM, Mar 17, 17:31:44
        
        But they aren't (General Chat) - Old Git, Mar 17, 17:38:30
        
        Yup. Veggie beer, obviously. See you at L'Orient. (n/m) (General Chat) - JPM, Mar 17, 17:47:33
        
        Yeh, meet up. He'll have to stand directly in front of you at all times though (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Mar 17, 17:41:43
        
        come off it, how many hunters in the UK do so to feed themselves? (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Mar 17, 17:39:56
        
        i do (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Mar 17, 18:54:26
        
        I don't doubt that it is justifiable in many circumstances (General Chat) - Worzel Scrimmage, Mar 17, 19:23:35
        
        He'll continue to obfuscate. He's been doing it all afternoon. (n/m) (General Chat) - Sugbad The Bad, Mar 17, 17:33:39
    - clearly hasnt got a clue^^^ (General Chat) - Tony Martin, Mar 17, 17:09:20
      - You think if millions of people wanted to hunt, that could be done sustainably? (General Chat) - JPM, Mar 17, 17:11:46
        
        That's because their desire to eat meat is satisfied by consuming industrially farmed (General Chat) - Old Git, Mar 17, 17:16:34
        
        Industrial farming (General Chat) - Old Git, Mar 17, 17:27:57
- troll (General Chat) - Charles21, Mar 17, 16:55:51
  - no they don't (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 17, 17:25:22

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