Worthington did very well sorting us out in the second tier but couldn't really handle the
Premiership.
First season, 2000-2001: took a team in freefall that had been through five managers in as many years, immediately cleared out the dead wood and ended up keeping us up fairly comfortably.
He made a couple of brilliant low-budget signings - Gary Holt and Adam Drury - and really got the best out of a few of Bryan Hamilton's signings (particularly Nedergaard and McVeigh) to put us on the right track, and they formed the basis of an unfancied team which came within penalties of going up in 2002.
The following season there was little investment in the team - we only signed one player in summer 2002, on a free - and were in the mix for most of the season until falling away towards the end and finishing 7th.
2003-4 - he really excelled at team-building, making a couple of great signings - Francis and Edworthy, later Svensson and McKenzie - recognised Peter Crouch as a quality striker (Crouch was a bit of a figure of fun at the time) and persuaded Darren Huckerby to sign on loan then stay, and then we comfortably won the League.
So far, so good, but we'd seen a few failings - notably the lack of a plan B, a poor away record and a tendency to start slowly - and they really screwed us in the Premiership.
Add to that a failure to recognise his best team, or get much out of our better players - he had no idea how to handle David Bentley (although better managers have failed there), or how to use Helveg or Mattias Jonson: once he finally clocked his best XI it was too late, and four home wins at the end of the season didn't quite save us.
Then it all went wrong: in summer 2005, perhaps rattled by his failures with Bentley, Jonson and Helveg, he went for players who "knew what the First Division was about" and brought in Andy Hughes, Peter Thorne and Jason Jarrett - three of the very worst players to represent the team - and the chance to go straight back up slipped away.
He was lucky not to get sacked in autumn 2005, and by the time he made better signings - Earnshaw and Etuhu - it was too late - we'd lost Dean Ashton and then Robert Green, and all our momentum.
The following season started well and he made two signings - Lee Croft who was decent, and Dion Dublin, an unexpected masterstroke - but it was too late, he'd lost the fans and filled our midfield with garbage, and as soon as it went tits-up again he was out.
So in summary, reasonable on the transfer market (for the most part), works well with certain types of players but not big names (or people who think they're big names), fairly good at team building and will most likely improve you at least in the short term - and has a much better track record than Brian Laws, having kept Leicester up in 2006-7 and done as well as could be expected with Northern Ireland.
Hope that helps - I've always liked the Owls (Waddle and Degryse especially) and hope you're back in the Premiership before too long.
Posted By: Ottosson Foxtrot on December 14th 2009 at 21:13:34
Message Thread
- Nigel Worthington (NCFC) - blueandwhitewizards, Dec 14, 20:40:18
- best manager in history (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Dec 14, 23:32:26
- Oh yeh.......... (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 14, 23:47:30
- You'll probably have noticed that this still devides fans... (NCFC) - greendude, Dec 14, 23:01:01
- Simple answer yes he is a good Championship manager... (NCFC) - greendude, Dec 14, 22:46:08
- I dont agree......... (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 14, 22:55:50
- OK then. Specifically, naming names, which youth players did you think Worthington failed (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Dec 14, 23:48:28
- HUH? I didn't say/mean that either.............. (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 15, 00:09:10
- Well, you *did* say it. If you're saying stuff you don't mean (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Dec 15, 00:20:37
- From the guy who claimed I said " Worthy ignored" youth team players..... (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 15, 02:55:37
- Well, you *did* say it. If you're saying stuff you don't mean (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Dec 15, 00:20:37
- HUH? I didn't say/mean that either.............. (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 15, 00:09:10
- Specifically, naming names, which youth players which Worthington ignored did you think he (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Dec 14, 23:26:23
- HUH? where did I say he "ignored" talent. (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 14, 23:44:08
- ^^^ up there (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Dec 14, 23:49:17
- Of course I didn't, you just made it up..............well played! (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 15, 02:57:06
- ^^^ up there (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Dec 14, 23:49:17
- HUH? where did I say he "ignored" talent. (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 14, 23:44:08
- OK then. Specifically, naming names, which youth players did you think Worthington failed (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Dec 14, 23:48:28
- I dont agree......... (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 14, 22:55:50
- Far better options out there IMHO. (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 14, 22:32:26
- That was on his way out - a lot of managers do that! (n/m) (NCFC) - greendude, Dec 14, 22:48:06
- Probably why managers get so much hatred at the end........ (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 14, 22:53:13
- That was on his way out - a lot of managers do that! (n/m) (NCFC) - greendude, Dec 14, 22:48:06
- He still lives in North Norfolk (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Dec 14, 22:09:25
- worthy, is a legend at this club (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Dec 14, 21:36:33
- thats a matter of opinion (n/m) (NCFC) - selwyn, Dec 14, 22:10:13
- What's your opinion, Sellers? (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 14, 22:13:10
- i never liked the miserable old twat-he lost the plot at the end.ie peter fucking thorne (n/m) (NCFC) - selwyn, Dec 14, 22:14:42
- Haha - I couldn't have put his final full season better myself. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 14, 22:16:32
- the undoing of nigel worthington (and ncfc) (NCFC) - YAWN, Dec 14, 22:25:34
- I would laugh my cock off if he signed Peter Thorne for Sheff Wendies (n/m) (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Dec 14, 22:21:02
- And Jason Jarrett. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 14, 22:22:26
- Haha - I couldn't have put his final full season better myself. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 14, 22:16:32
- i never liked the miserable old twat-he lost the plot at the end.ie peter fucking thorne (n/m) (NCFC) - selwyn, Dec 14, 22:14:42
- What's your opinion, Sellers? (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 14, 22:13:10
- thats a matter of opinion (n/m) (NCFC) - selwyn, Dec 14, 22:10:13
- Worthington did very well sorting us out in the second tier but couldn't really handle the (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 14, 21:13:34
- Excellent summary plus......... (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 14, 22:51:11
- "The right loan players come along at the right time" (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 14, 22:54:15
- I totally agree but......... (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 14, 23:05:37
- One more thing.......... (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 14, 23:10:16
- Harper and Cooper were effective loan signings too. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 14, 23:16:03
- Agree but...... (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 14, 23:21:59
- Harper and Cooper were effective loan signings too. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 14, 23:16:03
- Again, to be fair to Worthy ... (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 14, 23:10:15
- History....... (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 14, 23:16:24
- One more thing.......... (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 14, 23:10:16
- I totally agree but......... (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 14, 23:05:37
- "The right loan players come along at the right time" (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 14, 22:54:15
- Thanks alot for the in-depth report Foxtrot. (NCFC) - blueandwhitewizards, Dec 14, 21:32:29
- Excellent summary plus......... (NCFC) - usacanary, Dec 14, 22:51:11
- 3 stages really... (NCFC) - dear prudence, Dec 14, 21:06:15
- Laws is better. Worthington operates well when winning (NCFC) - pants, Dec 14, 20:47:19
- I was in York today, you bell end. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Dec 14, 21:37:24
- I had a massive arguement with my girlfriend in the shambles once (NCFC) - Small, Dec 14, 23:19:17
- Did you go to that juice place down the shambles? (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Dec 14, 22:01:04
- Some little old tea rooms thing. Nice. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Dec 14, 22:03:01
- Yes we have little resources but Laws was very wasteful. (NCFC) - blueandwhitewizards, Dec 14, 21:03:25
- For what it's worth, I worked for your new(ish) chairman for a little over three years. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Dec 14, 21:35:02
- at Plusnet? (NCFC) - blueandwhitewizards, Dec 14, 21:54:26
- Yes, at Plusnet, although neither of us are there any more. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Dec 14, 22:01:21
- He's already kind of controlling it. (NCFC) - blueandwhitewizards, Dec 14, 22:17:45
- ^^^ Amount of that which surprises me (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Dec 14, 22:22:04
- He's already kind of controlling it. (NCFC) - blueandwhitewizards, Dec 14, 22:17:45
- Yes, at Plusnet, although neither of us are there any more. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Dec 14, 22:01:21
- at Plusnet? (NCFC) - blueandwhitewizards, Dec 14, 21:54:26
- For what it's worth, I worked for your new(ish) chairman for a little over three years. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Dec 14, 21:35:02
- Very well put. (n/m) (NCFC) - colincanary, Dec 14, 20:50:02
- Thanks ever so much for all the info lads. (NCFC) - blueandwhitewizards, Dec 14, 22:40:16
- You could do better and you could do worse, I reckon. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Dec 14, 22:55:58
- Thanks ever so much for all the info lads. (NCFC) - blueandwhitewizards, Dec 14, 22:40:16
- I was in York today, you bell end. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Dec 14, 21:37:24
- best manager in history (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Dec 14, 23:32:26
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