Just to play Devil's Advocate
Where has Delia ever come out and said that she is holding out for every red cent she can get her hands on? Yes, I'm sure she'd like to see her money back, but consider this:
She (And Michael, who everyone conveniently forgets!) could do a deal with a buyer or consortium to sell every share they have for a pound. By law, the buyer would then be obligated to offer for all other shares in the company. I'm not a financial type, but I believe they are obligated to make a "fair" offer for those shares, so their supposed face value would not be an unreasonable starting point for calculation. That would also not preclude other shareholders from doing a deal with the buyer should they choose to do so. BUT - they are not under any obligation to do a deal of any sort - and neither Delia & Michael.
The major sticking point is surely the loans. Any prospective buyer, on taking control of the club, MUST refinance the loans. Good luck in today's environment. The Director's loans etc. could possibly be negotiated into abeyance, but they must refinance the loans. I see precisely no chance of the banks accepting a debt buy-up a la Ipswich as we have real assets.
The Scum owed over ?30m against a sum total of f**k-all squared in a box. Their biggest asset was effectively a piece of paper saying that they could play in the Championship (Could be wrong here, they could own their training ground). We, on the other hand, own a stadium, training ground, and various other land assets and interests in companies which are worth a bob or two and, in extremis, could be flogged off. There's still value there for the banks and they will want their pound of flesh while there's any chance they can get their paws on it.
I can quite easily believe that should someone come along who can and will take on the loans and have a significant amount of cash left over after the compulsory offer for the other shares, Delia and Michael would take it. Show them you have the cash and the best interests of the club at heart and you won't see their arses for dust.
This brings me on to something else: Administration, held up by the ignorant as the panacea for all our woes. Simply pop the club into administration and everything will be rosy. WRONG. We will lose every asset we have and there is still NO guarantee whatsoever that a new buyer or owner will come along. It can help you out of the s**t or it can be the beginning of the end. We need to be very, very careful and very, very desperate before we contemplate that.
Posted By: Iwan Husarmi on May 15th 2009 at 20:32:46
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- FAO Old Git (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 15, 20:01:50
- were did you sit with my post BF? I want to know what the end goal is and (NCFC) - lovely old job, May 15, 21:01:23
- I thought your post was excellent too. (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 15, 21:14:05
- the reason for the split is you're damned if you do damned if you dont (NCFC) - lovely old job, May 15, 21:19:03
- I agree. Hence the impasse. (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 15, 21:26:15
- the reason for the split is you're damned if you do damned if you dont (NCFC) - lovely old job, May 15, 21:19:03
- I thought your post was excellent too. (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 15, 21:14:05
- Just to play Devil's Advocate (NCFC) - Iwan Husarmi, May 15, 20:32:46
- Spot right on (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, May 15, 21:27:29
- I think Evans Ipswich'd it (NCFC) - Iwan Husarmi, May 15, 21:40:17
- Well (NCFC) - conker, May 15, 20:58:59
- that'd be in the accounts (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 15, 21:02:50
- Fair enough (NCFC) - conker, May 15, 21:05:10
- that'd be in the accounts (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 15, 21:02:50
- another good post (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, May 15, 20:48:09
- I don't want administration for a moment. It'd be awful. (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 15, 20:44:16
- That could be a bit chicken-and-egg (NCFC) - Iwan Husarmi, May 15, 21:10:48
- Re: Keith Harris - see my response to Ralf (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 15, 21:17:06
- "But there's real confusion over what Keith Harris' brief is" (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 15, 20:54:10
- Which is it? New ownership or just new investors? (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 15, 20:55:17
- both/either/depends on what the person with the money is after (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 15, 21:01:19
- C'mon, think about it (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 15, 21:06:22
- right, so you're now suggesting that they're too stupid to recognise that their ?11m (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 15, 21:15:27
- I'm suggesting they're too stubborn to change - and have set conditions (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 15, 21:22:21
- right, so you're now suggesting that they're too stupid to recognise that their ?11m (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 15, 21:15:27
- C'mon, think about it (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 15, 21:06:22
- both/either/depends on what the person with the money is after (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, May 15, 21:01:19
- Which is it? New ownership or just new investors? (NCFC) - thebigfeller, May 15, 20:55:17
- That could be a bit chicken-and-egg (NCFC) - Iwan Husarmi, May 15, 21:10:48
- Spot right on (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, May 15, 21:27:29
- were did you sit with my post BF? I want to know what the end goal is and (NCFC) - lovely old job, May 15, 21:01:23
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