I don't think they see it as failure

I think it is simply that the amounts of money required to make an impact in football now are vastly different from when they took over.

When they bought the club their wealth was sufficient to make a difference. Now it isn't, hence they want out.

They are continuing to put money into the club but because it isn't sufficient to push the club forward they just get personal abuse. Why would anyone want that situation to continue?

Posted By: mr carra on March 2nd 2009 at 10:56:10

Message Thread

Petition/Support (NCFC) - paulg, Mar 2, 09:21:26
- This isn't about undermining the team or protests at matches (NCFC) - Ben, Mar 2, 09:33:34
  - what is it going to ACHIEVE? (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 2, 09:36:58
    - Who knows but doing nothing will achieve nothing (NCFC) - Ben, Mar 2, 09:46:47
      - there's a difference between doing nothing and doing something harmful (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 2, 09:57:37
        
        he's not suggesting..... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 10:01:52
        
        Actually (NCFC) - paulg, Mar 2, 10:08:01
        
        well..... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 10:11:22
        
        This is not an argument about the principle of "free speech" (NCFC) - paulg, Mar 2, 10:15:55
        
        we dont know till the petition or protest or whatever is tried... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 10:18:25
        
        "Geordie "fans" the best in the world" ring any bells?! (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Mar 2, 10:31:00
        
        geordie fans.......... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 10:33:08
        
        I thought he was still in charge? (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 2, 11:00:36
        
        And in any event .... (NCFC) - paulg, Mar 2, 11:03:57
        
        the point is....... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 11:09:45
        
        but all they did was create a bad atmosphere around the club (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 2, 11:12:33
        
        listen...... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 11:17:55
        
        Yes, yes, we all believe in free speech ... (NCFC) - paulg, Mar 2, 11:22:43
        
        well....... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 11:30:26
        
        Question: (NCFC) - paulg, Mar 2, 11:33:49
        
        if....... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 11:38:59
        
        And do you agree (NCFC) - paulg, Mar 2, 11:43:36
        
        of course! (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 11:52:42
        
        he is not suggesting doing anything except moianing loadly that things are going badly (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 2, 10:06:44
        
        wrong..... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 10:08:48
        
        the same Mike Ashley that's now taken his club off the market? (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Mar 2, 12:20:13
        
        The same mike ashby...... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 13:38:39
      - It's not doing nothing ... (NCFC) - paulg, Mar 2, 09:51:24
- so you agree the club are in a periless situation? (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 09:27:03
  - Re (NCFC) - paulg, Mar 2, 09:35:47
    - ok then......... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 09:53:14
- Agreed 11 games left time to unite and get behind the boys until we are relegated and (NCFC) - stringersrevenge, Mar 2, 09:24:50
  - but...... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 09:30:22
    - But the board want out. Otherwise they wouldn't be looking for investors. (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 2, 09:55:10
      - "but the board want out??!!" (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 09:58:24
        
        thought we'd hired someone to look for potential purchasers (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 2, 10:03:36
        
        point of order......... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 10:07:36
        
        no, I'm pretty sure they are looking for purchasers to take the club off their hands (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 2, 10:13:51
        
        wrong! (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 10:20:39
        
        produce some evidence for that, because their quotes clearly state otherwise (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 2, 10:27:22
        
        no.... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 10:31:13
        
        Cullum was looking to invest, not to buy out... (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 2, 10:12:12
        
        yes but with conditions that...... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 10:16:29
        
        no, the problem was that he wouldn't buy them out (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 2, 10:25:28
        
        contridiction here going on....... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 10:28:08
        
        But that isn't waht I said (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 2, 10:38:29
        
        well thats where we disagree...... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 10:44:47
        
        I don't think they see it as failure (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 2, 10:56:10
        
        we'll agree to disagree then..... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 11:15:45
        
        So they approached Keith Harris (and Orville) for a game of snap and a fondue then ? (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 2, 10:02:15
        
        they want.... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 10:13:10
        
        I believe Mr Carra is right. We'll just have to disagree... (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Mar 2, 10:18:10
        
        well...... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 10:24:43
        
        you keep digging a hole for yourself don't you (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 2, 10:31:42
        
        ffs........ (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 10:36:30
        
        I think that: (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 2, 10:43:41
        
        ok........ (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 10:46:09
        
        well obviously.. (NCFC) - mr carra, Mar 2, 11:00:07
    - So you've given up .... (NCFC) - paulg, Mar 2, 09:38:00
      - oh yeah....... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 09:51:13
        
        So what chance (NCFC) - paulg, Mar 2, 09:55:07
        
        i dont..... (NCFC) - Cheltenham_Canary, Mar 2, 12:00:53

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