Well, it was Ken Brown

not Kenny. Kenny was his son.

And isn't he forgetting a certain Dave Stringer, who was manager for some years after Brown and before Walker?

But then Mick never was good on facts - after all, City beat Munich 3-1.

And ref this bit:

"It is true that Roeder can be caustic with people. It was a mistake to adopt that tone with and about supporters.
But I can think of several managers who have been abrasive, even frightening, with their players and yet enjoyed huge success. Brian Clough was one and another is that Scots bloke whose club are the current English, European and World champions."

Clough had the players' respect. Roeder didn't. Ditto Fergie. You can be a c**t when you've achieved something.

But generally, no, I think it's fair enough.

Posted By: duke of york on January 22nd 2009 at 10:01:02

Message Thread

Anyone else have a problem with this? I don't... (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Jan 22, 09:49:27
- 1 of MD's better articles. I agree i still think Roeder did an ok job but needed to go (n/m) (NCFC) - stringersrevenge, Jan 22, 10:33:20
  - Blubtastic little piece at the end. (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Jan 22, 10:44:48
    - I do, fuckign Mick Dennis has clearly never watched Escape to Victory (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 22, 14:18:09
- I think it was as close to contrite as Mick will ever be (NCFC) - camcan, Jan 22, 10:20:45
  - we do? (NCFC) - Tombs, Jan 22, 10:36:02
    - you're not scheduled in for this year (NCFC) - camcan, Jan 22, 10:37:19
      - super (NCFC) - Tombs, Jan 22, 10:43:35
  - nor mine (n/m) (NCFC) - camcan, Jan 22, 10:21:29
    - whoops wrong place (n/m) (NCFC) - camcan, Jan 22, 10:24:25
- Can't be arsed to read that at the moment (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 22, 10:14:55
  - GIYLF (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jan 22, 10:20:47
    - That would bring me back to square one though... (n/m) (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 22, 10:28:52
      - and there-in lies the reason behind my post (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jan 22, 10:36:11
      - in this instance YLF would have been appropriate. (NCFC) - camcan, Jan 22, 10:29:47
        
        Yes, it's a fair cop (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 22, 10:32:35
        
        the headline refers to football management in general (NCFC) - camcan, Jan 22, 10:34:44
        
        Thanks! (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 22, 10:44:21
        
        as contrite as he'll get (NCFC) - camcan, Jan 22, 10:46:35
- tbh Mr P there's not very much that is contentious in that piece, apart from, as meggers (NCFC) - malkybarkid, Jan 22, 10:11:24
- He just doesn't get it I'm afraid (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 22, 10:05:28
- No - he's humane and he writes well. (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Jan 22, 10:04:30
- I cannot read him, and the "smugshot" of him makes it even worse. (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jan 22, 10:03:58
  - Oh hang on. I just noticed it was Dennis and not Waghorn. Smugshot still applies though. (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jan 22, 10:04:53
- Well, it was Ken Brown (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 22, 10:01:02
  - Yeah but (NCFC) - Snakey, Jan 22, 10:39:28
  - "and yet enjoyed huge success" is the key phrase there (n/m) (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 22, 10:16:47
    - Indeed (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 22, 10:19:23
  - what he was saying is that being "caustic" isn't necessarily a drawback. (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Jan 22, 10:08:35
    - I think that is under playing Roeders comments... (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Jan 22, 10:13:01
    - I wasn't being touchy (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 22, 10:12:00
      - that must be why I like him - I regularly get facts wrong myself (n/m) (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Jan 22, 10:39:32
  - spot on (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 10:07:44
- No the first bit, a point I tried and failed to make the other day (NCFC) - megson, Jan 22, 09:55:30
  - He's a journo on a national title... (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Jan 22, 10:02:13

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