No the first bit, a point I tried and failed to make the other day
Therefore i claim inspriation for the article, an acknowledgement would be nice Mick!
Second bit I do, he's missed the point badly. I had no problem with his 'factual' account of what went on really, was a bit toadying but i expect that.
What people didn't like is the pictures he painted of the crowd outside.
Now the guy is a succesful writer who MUST know the power of his words, and the imagery they contain.
So to use stuff like "angry" "baying" etc when discribing the city fans had to have been deliberate, and he must have know the mental picture these words would form for the readers.
Pictures that give a wholly over the top impression of what went on that night.
That's what i didnt like, painting those city fans to be thugs, which is simply untrue.
it is THAT he should have been adressing in the piece, and something i know want him to apologise for more than before.
Posted By: megson on January 22nd 2009 at 09:55:30
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- Anyone else have a problem with this? I don't... (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Jan 22, 09:49:27
- 1 of MD's better articles. I agree i still think Roeder did an ok job but needed to go (n/m) (NCFC) - stringersrevenge, Jan 22, 10:33:20
- Blubtastic little piece at the end. (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Jan 22, 10:44:48
- I do, fuckign Mick Dennis has clearly never watched Escape to Victory (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Jan 22, 14:18:09
- Blubtastic little piece at the end. (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Jan 22, 10:44:48
- I think it was as close to contrite as Mick will ever be (NCFC) - camcan, Jan 22, 10:20:45
- we do? (NCFC) - Tombs, Jan 22, 10:36:02
- you're not scheduled in for this year (NCFC) - camcan, Jan 22, 10:37:19
- nor mine (n/m) (NCFC) - camcan, Jan 22, 10:21:29
- whoops wrong place (n/m) (NCFC) - camcan, Jan 22, 10:24:25
- we do? (NCFC) - Tombs, Jan 22, 10:36:02
- Can't be arsed to read that at the moment (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 22, 10:14:55
- GIYLF (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jan 22, 10:20:47
- That would bring me back to square one though... (n/m) (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 22, 10:28:52
- and there-in lies the reason behind my post (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jan 22, 10:36:11
- in this instance YLF would have been appropriate. (NCFC) - camcan, Jan 22, 10:29:47
- Yes, it's a fair cop (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 22, 10:32:35
- the headline refers to football management in general (NCFC) - camcan, Jan 22, 10:34:44
- Thanks! (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 22, 10:44:21
- as contrite as he'll get (NCFC) - camcan, Jan 22, 10:46:35
- Thanks! (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 22, 10:44:21
- the headline refers to football management in general (NCFC) - camcan, Jan 22, 10:34:44
- Yes, it's a fair cop (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 22, 10:32:35
- That would bring me back to square one though... (n/m) (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 22, 10:28:52
- GIYLF (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Jan 22, 10:20:47
- tbh Mr P there's not very much that is contentious in that piece, apart from, as meggers (NCFC) - malkybarkid, Jan 22, 10:11:24
- He just doesn't get it I'm afraid (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Jan 22, 10:05:28
- No - he's humane and he writes well. (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Jan 22, 10:04:30
- I cannot read him, and the "smugshot" of him makes it even worse. (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jan 22, 10:03:58
- Oh hang on. I just noticed it was Dennis and not Waghorn. Smugshot still applies though. (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jan 22, 10:04:53
- Well, it was Ken Brown (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 22, 10:01:02
- Yeah but (NCFC) - Snakey, Jan 22, 10:39:28
- "and yet enjoyed huge success" is the key phrase there (n/m) (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jan 22, 10:16:47
- Indeed (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 22, 10:19:23
- what he was saying is that being "caustic" isn't necessarily a drawback. (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Jan 22, 10:08:35
- I think that is under playing Roeders comments... (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Jan 22, 10:13:01
- I wasn't being touchy (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 22, 10:12:00
- that must be why I like him - I regularly get facts wrong myself (n/m) (NCFC) - Higher Wrather, Jan 22, 10:39:32
- spot on (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 22, 10:07:44
- No the first bit, a point I tried and failed to make the other day (NCFC) - megson, Jan 22, 09:55:30
- He's a journo on a national title... (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Jan 22, 10:02:13
- 1 of MD's better articles. I agree i still think Roeder did an ok job but needed to go (n/m) (NCFC) - stringersrevenge, Jan 22, 10:33:20
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