we are all aware that football has gone to the dogs

but we can't change that.

And a football club is not, in its most important sense, just about the results on the pitch. It is about being an important part of the local community and a part of its fans identity.

As long as plenty of people follow the club and are pround to be City fans then as a club we are certainly not 'dying'. If the most important thing about a football club was winning we would all be Man U/Chelsea/Arsenal etc fans by now. But we aren't, because for all their success they don't represent us. NCFC does.
I didn't become a City fan because I thought they would ever win stuff, I became a City fan because I am from Norwich and they are my parents' team and so they are MY team.

Posted By: mr carra on September 2nd 2008 at 11:03:08

Message Thread

loans are good (NCFC) - Firstnews, Sep 2, 09:35:50
- How is it good that Portsmouth sign a player not good enough for them... (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 09:43:36
  - I totally agree, its a shambles (NCFC) - megson, Sep 2, 09:53:40
    - think its the money more than the window (NCFC) - mr carra, Sep 2, 09:56:06
  - Works both ways though (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Sep 2, 09:49:59
    - Name one? (n/m) (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 09:54:34
      - Martin & Pillane (n/m) (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Sep 2, 09:55:37
        
        They'll never player for us again (n/m) (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 10:02:15
        
        Maybe, maybe not (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Sep 2, 10:18:10
        
        *Spillane (n/m) (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Sep 2, 09:55:44
  - "ban all these loans"? (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Sep 2, 09:49:09
    - Without the loans we'd have to field only players we can afford to own (NCFC) - mr carra, Sep 2, 09:52:30
      - With a blinkered short term view like that you should be an MP (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 09:56:53
        
        "If everyone is forced to play by the same rules then we wouldn't be at a disadvantage." (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Sep 2, 10:03:32
        
        FFS, its not about that (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 10:08:04
        
        But, as I point out, it's not the loan system itself that's the problem (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Sep 2, 10:16:27
        
        The problem is not the loan system (NCFC) - mr carra, Sep 2, 10:15:39
        
        Why did you post it if it isn't "about that"? (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Sep 2, 10:09:44
        
        You're the idiot (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 10:16:05
        
        Well you've got it all sorted out. Splendid. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Sep 2, 10:37:27
        
        Whoop, whoop my club?s dying and I'm burying my head in the sand (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 10:49:53
        
        we are all aware that football has gone to the dogs (NCFC) - mr carra, Sep 2, 11:03:08
        
        That's why I became a Norwich fan as well but its not my club anymore (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 11:06:28
        
        But it's a nonsensical argument. (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Sep 2, 10:19:02
        
        why? (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 10:20:56
        
        I'm not sure. They sign these players because they can afford to, (NCFC) - megson, Sep 2, 10:27:22
        
        Because they have the money to buy potential (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Sep 2, 10:27:11
        
        That's all we're becoming, a Premiership reserve team (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 10:36:04
        
        We're witnessing the death of competetive football outside the top 4 in the Prem (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Sep 2, 10:47:44
        
        The Premiership has been dead for years (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 10:51:55
        
        Well, don't then. Your choice. (n/m) (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Sep 2, 11:40:07
        
        Fucking Nora - you STILL think it's to do with the loans?! (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Sep 2, 10:56:16
        
        I think we can take it from his silence below that he has Sky (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Sep 2, 11:00:01
        
        if it wasn't Sky it would be someone else (NCFC) - mr carra, Sep 2, 11:06:49
        
        Isn't the problem the disparity in incomes? (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Sep 2, 11:15:13
        
        Yes I do have Sky (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 11:03:32
        
        Do you really expect money that comes from a cunt like Murdoch to be evenly spread? (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Sep 2, 11:42:46
        
        If it wasn't Sky it would be someone else. (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 11:52:01
        
        That's not quite true is it? (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Sep 2, 11:44:21
        
        because I don't want to watch a team full of loans (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 10:59:44
        
        Ben, I think you are right, but if you Ban the loans (NCFC) - megson, Sep 2, 10:40:12
        
        If not banning loans then something needs to change (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 10:44:58
        
        What can clubs below the Prem do to change things? (NCFC) - mr carra, Sep 2, 10:51:48
        
        Exactly (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Sep 2, 10:53:12
        
        Yeah, just got the full package (n/m) (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 11:00:55
        
        Well there we are. (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Sep 2, 11:04:43
        
        I pay ?9 a month for Sky Sports and ?350 a year for a season ticket (n/m) (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 11:10:07
        
        Comparing monthly with annual is a bit cheeky (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Sep 2, 11:17:36
        
        Sky do pay our club as well (n/m) (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 11:22:08
        
        A tiny, tiny slice in comparison (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Sep 2, 11:24:42
        
        Your saying I can't have Sky because they pay too much to the Premiership (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 11:27:24
        
        I'm not saying you can't (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Sep 2, 11:33:17
        
        Do we boycott every company that put money into the Premiership? (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 11:37:44
        
        You don't really think the Sky deal benefits our club (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Sep 2, 11:40:27
        
        Are you saying our club can live without the Sky money? (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 11:43:50
        
        Sorry - plus you also guarantee more money for premiership clubs (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Sep 2, 11:20:26
        
        Actually I don't watch very much Premiership football... (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 11:24:04
        
        It gets worse. (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Sep 2, 11:26:07
        
        I want to watch Championship football (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 11:31:15
        
        Same as me..... (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Sep 2, 11:42:54
        
        Plus how much of that ?350 a year is going directly to the Premiership clubs... (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 11:14:06
        
        Are you attempting to argue that TV money ISN'T the root cause of the financial disparity (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Sep 2, 11:16:26
        
        Not at all but... (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 11:21:08
        
        And once that TV deal is negotiated, you subscribe to it. (n/m) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Sep 2, 11:23:23
        
        Well i can't just subscribe to the Championship football can I (n/m) (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 11:25:16
        
        Well NOW you're making sense, rather than sounding like Kevin the Teenager. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Sep 2, 10:50:20
        
        Yes, that I agree with, THe game is coming to a crisis point very very quickly. (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, Sep 2, 10:46:18
        
        Everything you say is true, but in the end the loan system isn't the cause (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Sep 2, 10:38:41
        
        How would we compete then? (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Sep 2, 10:18:10
        
        surely everyone IS forced to play by the same rules (NCFC) - mr carra, Sep 2, 09:59:47
    - ^^^^^^^^^^^^ What he said (n/m) (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Sep 2, 09:51:11
- Loans from across border (NCFC) - trt354, Sep 2, 09:41:57
  - Surprised that hasn't been mentioned before. Were all our loans last season domestic then? (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Sep 2, 09:51:22
    - there was something mentioned when we were waiting for International Clearance for both of (NCFC) - blindasabat, Sep 2, 10:08:39
    - Pretty sure they were (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, Sep 2, 09:54:10
  - Why don't we all just buy a fucking Chelsea season ticket then? (NCFC) - Ben, Sep 2, 09:45:46
  - really? (n/m) (NCFC) - shoddy, Sep 2, 09:43:34
  - really? THIS IS IMPORTANT NEWS AND NEEDS VERIFICATION (NCFC) - megson, Sep 2, 09:42:55
    - If this is true then it is excellent news (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Sep 2, 09:45:24
      - I GIYLF & can't find any mention of cross border loans not counting:- (NCFC) - jafski, Sep 2, 10:02:04
        
        I've been furiously GIYLFing too and can find nowt. (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, Sep 2, 10:16:09
- Eezer Goode, Eezer Goode (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Sep 2, 09:38:53

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