I totally understand that, and that's why I'm saying

it's ok to like both for whatever reason

My main point is the grief thrown at Ashton, when largely after a while, you'd have thought he was the one with the long list of high profile spats, off field troubles and general bad reputation

The vitriol to Ashton largely at time, is based on made up rumours, rather than actual facts

Posted By: pants on August 5th 2008 at 14:22:30

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Say, right, you're down the rec and Bellers and Ashton turn up... (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Aug 5, 13:14:41
- Bellamy (NCFC) - blindasabat, Aug 5, 13:25:58
  - So it's the type of striker you prefer then (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Aug 5, 13:53:41
    - if i was playing in a game on the local Rec, with jumpers for goal posts (NCFC) - blindasabat, Aug 5, 13:58:52
- Actually, I think I'd decline and go home to do a jigsaw. (NCFC) - CB41, Aug 5, 13:25:34
- Bellamy (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 5, 13:25:25
- Bellamy. What a daft question. (n/m) (NCFC) - Sugbad The Bad, Aug 5, 13:24:12
  - This is Wrath Sugs, what other kind are there? (n/m) (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Aug 5, 13:26:02
- Bellamy (n/m) (NCFC) - Mr Creosote, Aug 5, 13:22:25
- Bellamy (n/m) (NCFC) - Brom, Aug 5, 13:21:54
- Bellars, he's a born winner (NCFC) - HairyBobbingManAss, Aug 5, 13:21:13
  - Re: Bellars, he's a born winner (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Aug 5, 13:27:01
    - a wrath poll (NCFC) - camcan, Aug 5, 13:30:04
    - winning mentality innit, (NCFC) - HairyBobbingManAss, Aug 5, 13:29:26
      - Yet Ashton has proven, as a striker, when to score when it matters (NCFC) - pants, Aug 5, 13:32:54
        
        you said... (NCFC) - Brandonio, Aug 5, 13:41:14
        
        I remember him scoring a perfectly decent goal in the fulham away game (NCFC) - pants, Aug 5, 13:54:45
        
        To be fair, he was our best player at Fulham by quite some way. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 5, 13:43:02
        
        true but the point was... (NCFC) - Brandonio, Aug 5, 13:45:17
        
        Didn't he have a perfectly good goal disallowed when we were 1-0 down? (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 5, 13:46:47
        
        If you start counting goals in football that shouldn't have been disallowed (NCFC) - Brandonio, Aug 5, 13:48:48
        
        Yes, but there's a slight difference between a wing wizard (NCFC) - pants, Aug 5, 13:59:50
        
        Sounds good to me. Let's say we beat Fulham 3-0 with a Mattias Jonson hat-trick. (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 5, 13:50:29
        
        Was the Ashton goal still disallowed then? (n/m) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 5, 14:07:37
        
        Yeah. It makes the (admittedly unlikely) Jonson hat-trick even better. (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 5, 14:10:49
        
        In that case I'm a bit confused why we're allowed to do this.... (n/m) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 5, 14:11:37
        
        I decided to divorce the argument from any sort of rationality whatsoever. (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 5, 14:13:22
        
        Oh. OK. (n/m) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 5, 14:17:33
        
        "we beat Fulham 3-0 with a Mattias Jonson hat-trick" (n/m) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 5, 13:55:17
        
        Everyone else say it too. Maybe it'll catch on and we'll be back in the Premier League. (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 5, 13:57:39
        
        "we beat Fulham 3-0 with a Mattias Jonson hat-trick" (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Aug 5, 14:08:23
        
        Yes. (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Aug 5, 13:48:25
        
        *sub Fact for Truth and that's my point (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Aug 5, 13:46:01
        
        How often are facts ignored about Ashton on here though? (NCFC) - pants, Aug 5, 14:08:29
        
        the 2 people fact thing (NCFC) - pants, Aug 5, 14:18:37
        
        Yeah, but we know that was a troll so we ignored it (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Aug 5, 14:32:31
        
        That's a fair point I guess (NCFC) - pants, Aug 5, 14:39:27
        
        But you're treating the whole board as if it were one person (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Aug 5, 14:15:00
        
        Cool (NCFC) - pants, Aug 5, 14:34:58
        
        I know what you're saying about Bellers & Ashton (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Aug 5, 14:44:38
        
        I guess I'm just a bit more straight forward thinking (NCFC) - pants, Aug 5, 14:57:45
        
        You do need to remember that Bellamy was much more of a Norwich player (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Aug 5, 14:14:21
        
        I totally understand that, and that's why I'm saying (NCFC) - pants, Aug 5, 14:22:30
        
        *sub Fact for Truth and that's my point (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Aug 5, 13:45:59
        
        *sub Fact for Truth and that's my poin (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Aug 5, 13:45:58
        
        Peter Thorne certainly couldn't stand up when it counted... (n/m) (NCFC) - blindasabat, Aug 5, 13:36:38
        
        Or at all, by the end. (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Aug 5, 13:38:57
        
        other than on a surfboard... (n/m) (NCFC) - blindasabat, Aug 5, 13:41:36
        
        Cos he was injured? (NCFC) - pants, Aug 5, 13:38:09
        
        WHAT!? Ashton has scored more important goals than Ronaldo? (NCFC) - Brandonio, Aug 5, 13:34:49
        
        I didn't say Ronaldo can't do it (NCFC) - pants, Aug 5, 13:36:28
        
        I don't think Ashton has played in enough big games really to compare him (NCFC) - Brandonio, Aug 5, 13:37:52
        
        I was talking about how great players can rise to an occasion (NCFC) - pants, Aug 5, 13:39:06
        
        Remember Dennis Healey Pants (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Aug 5, 13:42:54
        
        I never ever wish to remember Dennis Healey's pants..... (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Aug 5, 13:47:37
      - I'll remember that.... (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Aug 5, 13:31:14
        
        because you have a prick's mentality (NCFC) - blindasabat, Aug 5, 13:35:30
- Bellars. The man speaks the truth. (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Aug 5, 13:18:26
  - Really? (NCFC) - CB41, Aug 5, 13:22:03
  - Ashton would probably be injured and have a scan to prove it. (n/m) (NCFC) - NCFC4life, Aug 5, 13:20:09
    - and then be go on to be injured for the next couple of years (NCFC) - pants, Aug 5, 13:28:23
      - Here we go...a full list... (NCFC) - Brandonio, Aug 5, 13:31:43
      - It's ok for Bellers to have a swipe at this club though (NCFC) - pants, Aug 5, 13:30:03
        
        Bellamy never played for Crewe mate... (NCFC) - Brandonio, Aug 5, 13:33:19
        
        haha (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Aug 5, 13:35:11
- Bellamy (NCFC) - Brandonio, Aug 5, 13:17:31
  - 7 clubs sort of debunks that a tad (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Aug 5, 13:19:58
    - Yeah, true, but he is 90 now so when you look it like that he's quite loyal really (n/m) (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Aug 5, 13:21:26
      - Even though 4 of them he stayed for a season? (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Aug 5, 13:23:07
    - haha (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Aug 5, 13:20:57
- Bellers, Ashtons is a bender (allegedly) (NCFC) - NCFC4life, Aug 5, 13:17:02
- Ashton (NCFC) - pants, Aug 5, 13:15:53
  - fuck you (NCFC) - NCFC4life, Aug 5, 13:17:34
  - Best in Club though... (n/m) (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Aug 5, 13:16:44
  - Ashton (n/m) (NCFC) - CB41, Aug 5, 13:16:41
    - Do you know who Ashton is? (n/m) (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Aug 5, 13:17:21
      - Poor, very, very poor (NCFC) - CB41, Aug 5, 13:20:59
        
        Just checking (n/m) (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Aug 5, 13:22:30

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