Because huckerby was a luxury, a luxury that effectively saved worthingtons job

because we were playing dross up to that loan signing

To play at your persona, you could say the signing of huckerby took this club backwards a little because WOrthington was allowed to stay here longer than he should have done, blowing his 600k on hughes, and your bobinsons, jarrets, heckingbottons, keith thingy, keepers for 250K and 150k like crichton, virtual complete youth team shut out on playing etc

SO yeah, it was nice, but the aftershocks of worthington are still be felt today, you could say

So if I was you, I could maybe throttle that business man, cos he's at fault for worthington

Of course, that's ridiculous (although fact at the same time), but I'm only doing what you do, looking at something, and using it to make conclusions afterwards like we all knew what would happen. We didn't, first few years worthington didn't have too many bad ideas, then he just lost it, but he truely lost it when everyone was behind him

Grant lost it, and the anger from worthington was still in the air. It still is now, and it's been on a Roeder a tad as you well know (cos you're one of them), and now that anger about worthington is on him and the board

Until a few chill out and realise that we've never really been anything but a lower mid table champ team since 1995, then we might actually not expect a lot, get behind the players, have a nice atmosphere in the ground, then something nice like Hull Bristol city, or donny might happen

A bit like we had 2001-02 when we didn't believe we could make the play offs but did. A bit like 92-93 and the nice surprises that brought

If not, then the atmosphere in the ground being the same as it has been the last few seasons, will be an advantage to the away team, and that's not exactly fair on Roeder or the players

Posted By: pants on July 13th 2008 at 21:41:46

Message Thread

Everyone is Speculating (NCFC) - SeattleSounders, Jul 13, 16:14:46
- Great post - straightforward - have to agree with most of that (n/m) (NCFC) - 1902, Jul 13, 17:26:14
- If you can asknowledge that D and M have been a godsend (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 16:52:01
  - Am in no Way Dumping on Smith and Jones (NCFC) - SeattleSounders, Jul 13, 17:04:56
    - Do you think they are willing to pay more? (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 17:20:40
  - Well, who's to say what's a fair price? (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jul 13, 17:02:18
    - We'll end up having the same convo as the other day, and before that (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 17:13:24
      - Delia and MWJ are getting all their money back they put in and some (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 18:05:24
        
        How do you work that out? (n/m) (NCFC) - Boris Johnson MP, Jul 13, 18:11:38
        
        Oh it's just a Phrankin fact of the day is it? (n/m) (NCFC) - Boris Johnson MP, Jul 13, 18:21:11
        
        i think the newspapers quote between 7 and 9 (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 18:24:55
        
        paranoid conjecture (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 18:35:15
        
        are you just talking shit now Pants (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 18:37:44
        
        But you just said she put in circa 7 million! Or does the odd 2-mill not count? (n/m) (NCFC) - Boris Johnson MP, Jul 13, 18:48:36
        
        it varies depending on which paper you look at. (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 18:56:17
        
        Haha, so you admit you're guessing, just goes to show what tripe you come out with. (n/m) (NCFC) - Boris Johnson MP, Jul 13, 19:08:03
        
        I don't have a copy of the company accounts here. (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 19:17:45
        
        But you specificaly picked 7 to suggest that Delia is getting a profit! (NCFC) - Boris Johnson MP, Jul 13, 19:20:56
        
        did you read it mate. (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 19:24:15
        
        oh yeah and according to the 56 million figure (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 19:26:29
        
        At the current asking price Delia gets 9 million back (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 18:17:41
  - I really don't understand why some people... (NCFC) - Dog, Jul 13, 16:56:04
    - Ohbut it could, because d and m don't have to sell, this club isn't in a desperate positio (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 17:04:23
      - Fair points I suppose... (NCFC) - Dog, Jul 13, 17:09:25
        
        True, I've never really thought too far into this guy being in charge (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 17:23:48
        
        Oh, come on, he's said nothing of the sort! (n/m) (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jul 13, 17:28:33
        
        He's plain and simple said he can't believe d and m, don't want investment (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 17:31:32
        
        "All you hear from this guy is how wonderful life will be when he's here" (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jul 13, 17:37:21
        
        Well stating that he'd spend 20m on the team is incinuating it isn't it? (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 17:41:17
        
        Is it? Seems like you're reading into it what you want to prove your point (n/m) (NCFC) - BerlinCanary, Jul 13, 17:47:37
        
        From the over reaction and disgusting behaviour so far (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 17:50:51
        
        Well we live within some pretty narrow confines at the moment... (NCFC) - Dog, Jul 13, 17:56:23
        
        One point about the restaurants... (NCFC) - Boris Johnson MP, Jul 13, 18:08:52
        
        That's fine... (NCFC) - Dog, Jul 13, 18:14:33
        
        We've done that in investing in Roeder. (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 18:38:30
        
        they hardly ever backed worthington Pants! (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 18:42:28
        
        lol, they hardly ever backed Worthington? (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 18:44:03
        
        How often did worthy have to challenge the Board to back him... (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 18:46:36
        
        I wasn't suggesting we build more, but shat's wrong with making use of facilities (NCFC) - Boris Johnson MP, Jul 13, 18:20:11
        
        There isn't.. (NCFC) - Dog, Jul 13, 18:25:24
        
        "The last time the board actually speculated to accumulate..." (NCFC) - Boris Johnson MP, Jul 13, 18:28:42
        
        Ashton only came when they decided that they'd budget using the parachute payments... (NCFC) - Dog, Jul 13, 18:35:57
        
        Whether it's too late or not, it is still speculation isn't it? (NCFC) - Boris Johnson MP, Jul 13, 18:40:09
        
        it was too bloody late.. end of. (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 18:55:17
        
        Completely. Missed. The. Point. (n/m) (NCFC) - Boris Johnson MP, Jul 13, 19:08:53
        
        not missed at all. They showed no ambition on promotion (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 19:19:26
        
        If we had spent 20m on players, and high wages, we could have ended up like (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:21:44
        
        They could have spent at least 3.5 million more on promotion (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 19:25:04
        
        It wouldn't have made a difference (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:31:12
        
        how do you know it wouldnt have mattered (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 19:35:20
        
        you don't get many decent strikers for 3,5m (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:47:53
        
        You got Peter Crouch and Dean Ashton in our Year (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 19:54:23
        
        We ididn't get crouch, we couldn't afford 2m, we can't now (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 21:58:19
        
        and Derby spent more than us finished with the record lowest points total (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:32:28
        
        The amount of money went up however by then (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 19:37:10
        
        If you accept that, then you know why we didn't go overboard to stay up (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:53:18
        
        we didnt even spend what we could until it was too late (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 19:54:51
        
        I didn't think you would accept it (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 21:15:35
        
        someone will now say (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 18:42:45
        
        This is what gets on my nerves (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 18:12:08
        
        What is the point in having a Premiership stadium, a Premiership training ground... (NCFC) - Dog, Jul 13, 18:18:14
        
        But everything IS geared towards the football... (NCFC) - Boris Johnson MP, Jul 13, 18:26:29
        
        Well I don't expect multi-million pound transfers from this Board. (NCFC) - Dog, Jul 13, 18:34:15
        
        considering our team of which Roeder's assembling now, the ones that aren't his buys (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 18:51:49
        
        Fozzy and Brellier free... (NCFC) - Dog, Jul 13, 18:56:05
        
        Amazing all those figures are now low (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:07:10
        
        it's basically, all phrankin ever does (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:08:00
        
        Grant was a fucking awful manager. (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 19:20:04
        
        and someone you compared to Roeder time and time again last season (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:26:53
        
        depends what Roeder turns up (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 19:28:11
        
        see, you don't really rate him (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:36:41
        
        he made mistakes (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 19:40:18
        
        Agreed, absolutely. (NCFC) - Boris Johnson MP, Jul 13, 18:44:56
        
        We allow managers decent money for players though (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 18:54:20
        
        And of course I agree with your summation. (NCFC) - Dog, Jul 13, 18:50:27
        
        And of course I agree with your summation. (NCFC) - Dog, Jul 13, 18:50:23
        
        I would like us to be challenging for the play-offs (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 18:28:51
        
        I don't think you quite understood my point. (n/m) (NCFC) - Boris Johnson MP, Jul 13, 18:33:31
        
        Because if we didn't work to secure and preserve those things (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 18:24:07
        
        So, to cut that babble short... (NCFC) - Dog, Jul 13, 18:26:46
        
        I'm not saying that either (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:00:55
        
        for anyone who wants to take this out of context (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:03:15
        
        Yeah but we don't even try to do better. (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 18:16:44
        
        Yes of course, their whole objective is just to wind you up (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 18:23:04
        
        show a time the current Board have shown ambition please. (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 18:25:50
        
        actually I will show you the one they used for years (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 18:33:04
        
        bingo!! so how does Huckerby work? I thought the club choses to ignore investment???????? (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:11:42
        
        They were given the money by a businessman (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 19:22:51
        
        ^^ Bingo (n/m) (NCFC) - Boris Johnson MP, Jul 13, 19:24:41
        
        well he was right to be worried (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 19:28:47
        
        Because huckerby was a luxury, a luxury that effectively saved worthingtons job (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 21:41:46
        
        The standard Phankin answer to this... (NCFC) - Boris Johnson MP, Jul 13, 19:15:22
        
        aye, that's the skipper a load were slagging off once (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:17:48
        
        Skipper made somne fucking stupid comments about Worthy (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 19:21:52
        
        Gove it a few days and you'll be comparing delia to chase (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:38:20
        
        Never, all they've ever wanted was to win the fa vase (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 18:32:15
        
        Who in football doesn't want to win stuff? That is not ambition. (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 18:34:13
        
        That's fair do's I guess (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 18:01:35
        
        lucky Delia and co increased their shares value by 20% in October (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 18:06:24
        
        No way of telling... (NCFC) - Dog, Jul 13, 17:27:16
        
        True (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 17:30:24
        
        But you've said yourself... (NCFC) - Dog, Jul 13, 17:32:24
        
        Exactly, so he wouldn't offer more for the club (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 17:38:01
        
        So you want it both ways... (NCFC) - Dog, Jul 13, 17:43:45
        
        Of course he's gonna say that, he was drumming up support (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 17:49:25
        
        same bullshit and lies Delia gave when she said she wouldnt be getting her money back (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 18:08:34
        
        Of course, Cullum will mean and say everything he does too (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 18:17:01
        
        you are just saying Cullum is saying hollow words based on NOTHING. (NCFC) - phrankin, Jul 13, 18:21:16
        
        Why should Cullum be any different to Delia? (NCFC) - Dog, Jul 13, 18:19:40
        
        I'm not saying he should be either. I'm pointing at the constant conspiracy that (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 18:30:42
        
        I don't think any true fan of NCFC can criticise Delia too harshly... (NCFC) - Dog, Jul 13, 18:46:48
        
        It's not a transfer budget though, it's much much more than that (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 19:14:19
        
        Also, they make every season ticket holder pay for every cup game too (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 17:40:19
        
        pants... you're overlooking one (or two) vital points... (NCFC) - Dog, Jul 13, 17:45:51
        
        The vital thing is, we could become crystal palace though (NCFC) - pants, Jul 13, 17:52:33
        
        We could... (NCFC) - Dog, Jul 13, 17:58:46
    - I don't think it's completely irrelevant... (NCFC) - Boris Johnson MP, Jul 13, 17:02:32

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