I've always thought Ipswich were actually better the year before they went up

Which thinking about it, may apply to West Brom as well. If the scummers hadn't choked in 98/9, I suspect they'd have enjoyed two excellent seasons, and maybe had the chance to stabilise themselves instead of blowing it all.

Good comparison between the two managers: Burley'll give Scotland every chance to really play some decent stuff as well as qualify for South Africa - and Mowbray, whose sides do have a history of blowing big games (several with Hibs as well as last season's play-off final) is destined for big things IMO, as long as he gets them up this year.

Posted By: thebigfeller on February 25th 2008 at 12:51:34

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My one nagging doubt about Roeder (NCFC) - Jim, Feb 25, 11:59:43
- Mr Nasty (NCFC) - Alexis Kreeosoat, Feb 25, 12:28:19
- Much as I like Roeder, there was no excuse for getting that group of players relegated. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Feb 25, 12:11:24
  - he was a little bit unlucky though (NCFC) - mr carra, Feb 25, 13:27:49
    - Hang on though (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Feb 25, 13:41:34
      - the world according to bigfeller (NCFC) - jayson blair, Feb 25, 14:26:48
  - Roeder probably wasn't a big enough name to ride the storm as well (NCFC) - iwans_ex_dentist, Feb 25, 12:12:57
    - what happened at Newcastle? (NCFC) - Charles21, Feb 25, 12:26:08
      - And the stats show he was the last decent manager they had (n/m) (NCFC) - iwans_ex_dentist, Feb 25, 12:28:30
      - Newcastle (NCFC) - Alexis Kreeosoat, Feb 25, 12:26:58
        
        They actually spent a grand total of £6m net last summer (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Feb 25, 12:36:47
        
        Sounds like a fortune to me (NCFC) - Alexis Kreeosoat, Feb 25, 12:43:33
        
        That's true (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Feb 25, 12:48:32
        
        Things may have gone better for Allardyce if: (NCFC) - iwans_ex_dentist, Feb 25, 12:50:18
        
        4) was entirely his choice, though (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Feb 25, 12:56:02
        
        If it hadn't have been for Allardyce (n/m) (NCFC) - iwans_ex_dentist, Feb 25, 12:59:58
        
        Yes - agreed (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Feb 25, 13:02:44
        
        Then Mike Ashley would presumably have made a serious appointment last summer! (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Feb 25, 13:02:18
        
        Grrrhh pressed wrong button (NCFC) - iwans_ex_dentist, Feb 25, 13:00:56
        
        Newcastle seem to make a habit of signing dodgy centre halves (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Feb 25, 12:30:04
    - As you say, though, he strikes me as the type to learn from his mistakes (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Feb 25, 12:17:47
      - 'Best in the division' - a tad presumptious (NCFC) - phrankin, Feb 25, 12:25:30
        
        Well who is better? (NCFC) - Alexis Kreeosoat, Feb 25, 12:31:46
        
        Mowbray (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Feb 25, 12:41:08
        
        I was thinking that - his teams are much like Burley's (NCFC) - phrankin, Feb 25, 12:47:16
        
        I've always thought Ipswich were actually better the year before they went up (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Feb 25, 12:51:34
        
        Pardew? Burley? Mowbray? (NCFC) - phrankin, Feb 25, 12:38:08
        
        Define better then we might get somewhere. (n/m) (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Feb 25, 12:32:25
        
        Better (NCFC) - Alexis Kreeosoat, Feb 25, 12:38:53
      - If we finish 7th and we do well next season (n/m) (NCFC) - iwans_ex_dentist, Feb 25, 12:18:43
- I may be naive about this (NCFC) - camcan, Feb 25, 12:04:10
  - He apparently has very little day to day contact with the players (NCFC) - Jim, Feb 25, 12:15:27
  - Also (and, yes I recognise they maybe toeing the party line) a lot of the players that (NCFC) - malkybarkid, Feb 25, 12:09:38
  - I think Roeder will learn from some of his experiences (NCFC) - iwans_ex_dentist, Feb 25, 12:07:49
- Loan players (NCFC) - iwans_ex_dentist, Feb 25, 12:03:34
  - I know why he has brought them in (NCFC) - Jim, Feb 25, 12:14:28
    - Someone behind on Saturday said Shackell was dropped due to yellow cards... (NCFC) - Brom, Feb 25, 12:18:59
      - I think that's right! (NCFC) - DICKY, Feb 25, 12:25:23
        
        You're correct. (NCFC) - Johnny Comecardiff, Feb 25, 12:35:28
        
        Might do Shackell the world of good to see that the boy currently behind him (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Feb 25, 12:37:11
        
        Makes sense (NCFC) - Alexis Kreeosoat, Feb 25, 12:31:00
        
        he said to day on Waghorns site that Pearce had been excellent in training (NCFC) - phrankin, Feb 25, 12:27:42
        
        *composed (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Feb 25, 12:29:06
        
        Although Roeder said (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Feb 25, 12:27:19
        
        "Shacks was unlucky to lose his place to Pearce" (n/m) (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Feb 25, 12:27:40
  - I think the main reason is is that during January player prices are very inflated (NCFC) - LincolnshireCanary, Feb 25, 12:09:56

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