No we don't need to get a grip

In our last two away games we have played some of the best football Norwich have played away for several years. We have done so playing a 4-4-2 formation with Croft on the right and Dion up front as the target man.

I cannot therefore understand why Roeder chose to revert to a 4-3-3 formation which has been shown time and time again lready this season not to work. Russell is not good on the right. He is a good player in the middle. Last night he had to play right midfield and had an ineffective game as a result. As a consequence we also had no width at all until Croft came on.

Camara was on the bench. Dion was on the bench. I accept in the latter's case we may have wanted to rest him but then perhaps we should not have released/sold our two other possible target men last week when we knew this game was coming up. The defence was re-jigged with Bertrand going to left back.

Worst of all was the three up front with Hucks ambling around somewhere between the midfield and attack playing in what appeared to be the "anywhere but where the ball is role" and with Jarvis playing we may as well have played with 10 men. In fact we would have been better with 10 men.

As much as anything else though it was the attitude. They were not up for is and I don't believe Roeder when he says he is angry. Even when 2 down we were not really chasing the game with any urgency.

Posted By: Jim on January 16th 2008 at 10:26:23

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Hang on a minute (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 16, 10:12:17
- What it reveals (NCFC) - Five guys named Creo, Jan 16, 10:31:48
  - What a sensible post. (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jan 16, 10:38:10
- Well quite. Measure the "disdain" by the lack of performance from our "big name" players (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Jan 16, 10:30:24
  - Does that mean though.. (NCFC) - Garry Brooke, Jan 16, 10:51:37
    - Well, yes, rather shit. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Jan 16, 11:01:16
  - Hux (NCFC) - Five guys named Creo, Jan 16, 10:32:49
    - It wouldn't be a surprise, would it? (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Jan 16, 10:39:07
      - Do you doubt his commitment? (NCFC) - Five guys named Creo, Jan 16, 10:40:27
        
        No, not in the slightest. But my badly worded post certainly makes it look like I might. (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Jan 16, 10:44:03
        
        Problem is everyone expects so much of him (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 16, 10:43:52
        
        I still love him... (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Jan 16, 10:48:48
        
        Scandalous and stupid (NCFC) - Five guys named Creo, Jan 16, 10:47:06
        
        Yeah, he doesn't look entirely fit (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 16, 10:56:46
  - What's with the "disdain" word all of a sudden... (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Jan 16, 10:32:48
    - Rememberance of Helveg and Nielsen (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jan 16, 10:39:56
- I like walking. I'm really good at that. Have you sold your Lambretta yet? (n/m) (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Jan 16, 10:28:27
- No we don't need to get a grip (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 16, 10:26:23
  - you clearly do (NCFC) - megson, Jan 16, 10:35:45
  - For years many people have said Hucks' best (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 16, 10:29:59
    - Nobody is saying the manager's a c*nt (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 16, 10:38:15
      - you did deserve better than that. (NCFC) - megson, Jan 16, 10:40:01
        
        I'm quite used to dire away perfomances (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 16, 10:41:29
        
        which makes perfect sense. (NCFC) - megson, Jan 16, 10:44:58
      - haha - that's probably the first time I've ever said that (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 16, 10:39:38
  - "4-3-3 formation which has been shown time and time again lready this season not to work." (NCFC) - blindasabat, Jan 16, 10:29:27
  - well said (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 16, 10:28:06
    - Tony Gale must have had a bet on Bury (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 16, 10:30:25
    - One of the biggest downsides is the loss of momentum (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 16, 10:29:51
      - or a reality check for our players that they just can't turn up and expect to win (NCFC) - blindasabat, Jan 16, 10:40:32
      - How can there be a loss of momentum when by your own admission it was different personnel (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Jan 16, 10:33:03
        
        Because he's a moaning twat (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 16, 10:38:27
        
        Yeah. Me, Jim, SCC, capecodcarman - we're all just moaning twats, aren't we? (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 16, 10:47:21
        
        To be fair, your inclusion of SCC there does absolutely nothing to enhance your argument. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Jan 16, 10:52:30
        
        *splutter* (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Jan 16, 10:55:21
        
        Because (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 16, 10:45:02
        
        But on Satdee they'll be playing ona decent pitch with Thanks Evans For Little Ched, and (NCFC) - Old Git, Jan 16, 10:57:55
        
        It wsn't a ploughed field last night. It was better, actually, than Barnsley on Saturday (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Jan 16, 11:06:45
        
        I agree tiny would be a boost (NCFC) - megson, Jan 16, 11:00:35
- Innit (n/m) (NCFC) - Partial Angler, Jan 16, 10:25:45
- There's a small wake up call to everyone here too (NCFC) - pants, Jan 16, 10:17:46
  - Agree entirely (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 16, 10:20:39
    - agreed. (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, Jan 16, 10:34:11
    - Roeder has earnt it (NCFC) - pants, Jan 16, 10:21:59
      - Crushing sense of despair (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 16, 10:23:15
        
        Yawn. (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 16, 10:37:37
        
        ... (NCFC) - blindasabat, Jan 16, 10:43:10
        
        I don't - but each to their own, as PK might say (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 16, 10:43:59
        
        Are you getting all cross big chappy? If you are it really is not worth the effort... (NCFC) - Fierce Panda, Jan 16, 10:40:27
        
        LOL! There'll bn (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 16, 10:41:51
        
        be no blubbing, and no leaving (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 16, 10:42:30
        
        Yawn. Read about 5 words of that (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 16, 10:38:47
        
        What's the matter? Six lines too much for you now? (n/m) (NCFC) - thebigfeller, Jan 16, 10:40:07
        
        In this case, yes (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 16, 10:42:16
- I think if you look at the table, we are better (NCFC) - XXL16, Jan 16, 10:14:13
  - Agree entirely (NCFC) - Buckscanary, Jan 16, 10:18:27
    - Also thee game against "wealthy" Leicester is (NCFC) - XXL16, Jan 16, 10:23:16
    - I can't imagine the clubs finance bods will be that narked either (NCFC) - pants, Jan 16, 10:20:17
      - cup (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jan 16, 10:20:31
  - 2 players!! (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 16, 10:17:16
    - Camara and Croft? (n/m) (n/m) (NCFC) - XXL16, Jan 16, 10:22:40
      - Hucks was in for Croft (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 16, 10:24:02
        
        over 25% of the starters (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 16, 10:27:01
        
        a bit of a worry that these are the guys to come in should a couple of injuries hit (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Jan 16, 10:31:09

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