y'see this is why i didn't give a counter-argument...

:-)

it's all to do with the margins though, but my memory of my a-level economics is way too fuzzy to be going into any kind of detail in the slightest!

and my argument wasn't against property rights, i agree they're needed, but it'll take millions more people downloading for free before they reach the tipping point where it doesn't make economic sense to produce the shows anymore

and i don't think it'll reach that point as for as long as they make it just difficult enough to prevent your CB41's from thinking it's worthwhile downloading rather than waiting for it to appear legally through the normal channels

and some other stuff

Posted By: blindasabat on October 22nd 2007 at 17:35:51

Message Thread

All this effort to download and copy filums, (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 22, 17:15:42
- Hmmm free to download or £3 to rent (even more to buy) (General Chat) - scruffy, Oct 22, 18:01:48
- I like this (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 22, 17:30:10
- I use it more for TV that we miss. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Oct 22, 17:20:14
  - y'see. ↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓� ��↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓↓� �↓↓↓↓ (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 22, 17:23:42
    - Possibly, but I do very much doubt it. (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Oct 22, 17:27:12
      - Nope. Hence why I said I wasn't sure I believed it (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 22, 17:30:23
      - It hasn't killed anything (n/m) (General Chat) - pants, Oct 22, 17:27:41
    - If they are spending every evening in front of the (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 22, 17:27:11
  - But it takeas a lot more then 5 mins (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 22, 17:23:16
    - Well, yes. If we watch one Sopranos a week ... (General Chat) - Arizona Bay, Oct 22, 17:24:45
- but they're talking about whole tv series. At least 10 hours of viewing (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 22, 17:19:13
  - Not really true for TV shows, unless... (General Chat) - Dr Baker, Oct 22, 17:28:58
    - Er no. They're funded by the channel that shows them (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 22, 17:31:52
      - Yep, fair enough... (General Chat) - Dr Baker, Oct 22, 17:41:39
      - "So if everyone downloaded it off the web" (General Chat) - blindasabat, Oct 22, 17:38:33
        
        yes. I just couldn't be bothered to type all of that. (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 22, 17:41:33
        
        as long as the stealing is sufficiently tricky enough to be off-putting (General Chat) - blindasabat, Oct 22, 17:45:30
        
        I don't think it's a tipping point. It's a gradual thing. (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 22, 17:48:43
        
        "Because releasing records is now much less profitable, given illegal downloads" (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Oct 22, 18:15:51
        
        I agree (General Chat) - The King of Prussia, Oct 22, 18:29:08
        
        Yeah, but to be fair, you only spent 23p on CDs before you started downloading (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Oct 22, 18:40:52
        
        Apparently alongside the decline in CD sales (General Chat) - The King of Prussia, Oct 22, 18:51:00
        
        Hadn't heard that about live music (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Oct 22, 18:58:30
        
        Why would that be a distortion? (General Chat) - The King of Prussia, Oct 22, 19:06:47
        
        Just musing really - bad choice of words... (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Oct 22, 19:16:13
        
        The thing that stuns me (General Chat) - The King of Prussia, Oct 22, 19:20:45
        
        Really? Weller's not involved is he? Thought it was just Foxton and the other one. (n/m) (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Oct 22, 19:31:35
        
        Indeed (General Chat) - The King of Prussia, Oct 22, 19:34:11
        
        is it not just also possible that they're signing less bands because (General Chat) - blindasabat, Oct 22, 17:55:35
        
        *off-putting for enough people to ensure that the producers endeavours are still profitabl (General Chat) - blindasabat, Oct 22, 17:47:58
      - but everyone doesn't (General Chat) - Charles21, Oct 22, 17:34:05
        
        Well obviously. (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 22, 17:36:57
      - Except for the BBC (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 22, 17:33:02
        
        Indeed. Except they need to maintain decent viewing figures, (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 22, 17:34:05
        
        Which brings me to the point - (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 22, 17:35:17
        
        they go to the pirate bay and look at how many people with a uk IP address are seeding CYE (n/m) (General Chat) - Dave in France, Oct 22, 17:43:22
  - At least things could be made and have an ending, not just dragged out (General Chat) - pants, Oct 22, 17:26:14
  - Wouldn't work with me. Even in the days of video, I can't (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 22, 17:25:42
  - i think only a bad economist would say that (n/m) (General Chat) - blindasabat, Oct 22, 17:24:27
    - A mediocre hairdresser might say it too, you never know (n/m) (General Chat) - Partial Angler, Oct 22, 17:32:54
    - go on......? (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Oct 22, 17:26:35
      - y'see this is why i didn't give a counter-argument... (General Chat) - blindasabat, Oct 22, 17:35:51
        
        I'm their best mate - I don't even do that, (General Chat) - CB41, Oct 22, 17:38:03
        
        So, you're not consuming the product at all? (General Chat) - BerlinCanary, Oct 22, 18:22:33

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