my point is still about martyrdom

it is that the only martyrdom here is the one the bombers themselves believe they have achieved. Islam itself isn't saying they are martyrs any more tha Christanity would in similar circumstances.

Posted By: mr carra on July 15th 2005 at 15:03:16

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What Cherie said about suicide bombers (June 2002) (General Chat) - Old Git, Jul 15, 14:21:34
- My shock of the day.. (General Chat) - camcan, Jul 15, 14:32:04
  - you mean you're responisble for the london bombings? (General Chat) - Dave in France, Jul 15, 14:35:10
    - people don't learn much on my workshops! (n/m) (General Chat) - camcan, Jul 15, 14:39:44
      - it was a marketing workshop, and their brand name is now better known (n/m) (General Chat) - mr carra, Jul 15, 14:55:12
      - All camcan customers - please form a queue for your refunds (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Jul 15, 14:48:50
        
        not now please.. (General Chat) - camcan, Jul 15, 14:50:29
      - phew (n/m) (General Chat) - Dave in France, Jul 15, 14:44:21
  - camcan is al Qaeda mastermind shock! (General Chat) - Old Git, Jul 15, 14:34:50
    - I'd rather you'd not used that subject line! (n/m) (General Chat) - camcan, Jul 15, 14:37:14
- Jack Straw has lost the plot - compassion for suicide bombers - yeah right ! (n/m) (General Chat) - John in Texas, Jul 15, 14:24:53
  - Shouldn't think he'll be repeating that one for a while (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Jul 15, 14:31:01
    - Can see the point though cos (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jul 15, 14:35:02
- i think you have to be a little bit mentally unstable to want to blow yourself up (General Chat) - Dave in France, Jul 15, 14:24:22
  - Its the martyrdom which is important (General Chat) - John in Texas, Jul 15, 14:34:27
    - Islam and martyrdom (General Chat) - mr carra, Jul 15, 14:44:29
      - Ahem (General Chat) - Old Git, Jul 15, 14:47:20
        
        and no Christain Saints killed other people? (General Chat) - mr carra, Jul 15, 14:53:30
        
        You may notice (General Chat) - Old Git, Jul 15, 14:59:10
        
        my point is still about martyrdom (General Chat) - mr carra, Jul 15, 15:03:16
        
        Sadly not so (General Chat) - Old Git, Jul 15, 15:13:29
    - No it's not. You only martyr yourself for a cause so the cause is the key (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jul 15, 14:35:56
      - fair point - (n/m) (General Chat) - John in Texas, Jul 15, 14:38:28
  - But that's standard (General Chat) - Old Git, Jul 15, 14:29:55
    - Someone said to the other day - no idea if true... (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Jul 15, 14:33:05
      - Ask Mr. Safri I reckon (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jul 15, 14:37:16
      - haven't finished the koran yet (General Chat) - Dave in France, Jul 15, 14:36:23
        
        the ending is......don't read if you don't want to know (General Chat) - John in Texas, Jul 15, 14:37:18
      - see above martydom (n/m) (General Chat) - John in Texas, Jul 15, 14:34:59
      - that's something.. (General Chat) - camcan, Jul 15, 14:34:08
  - I don't want to shatter any illusions here (General Chat) - SherryEnema, Jul 15, 14:27:14
    - Didn't see this... (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Jul 15, 14:33:43
      - Radio 5. The next interviewee was a Muslim spokesman of one variety or another ... (General Chat) - roywallerslovechild, Jul 15, 14:37:08
        
        Imagine 40 virgins for eternity - all those "I don't think I'm ready for this yet" chats (General Chat) - Old Git, Jul 15, 14:42:12
        
        hahaha (General Chat) - Dave in France, Jul 15, 14:45:20
        
        I heard that.. (General Chat) - camcan, Jul 15, 14:38:24
  - Brainwashing innit. (General Chat) - roywallerslovechild, Jul 15, 14:26:40
    - As I understand it... (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Jul 15, 14:35:52
      - Yeah - I heard something about 26 things on the radio this morning - wasn't concentrating (General Chat) - roywallerslovechild, Jul 15, 14:42:19
      - Brainwashing only puts in certain beliefs. It doesn't make you want to (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jul 15, 14:37:57
        
        Obviously hard to check Steve... (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Jul 15, 14:44:27
        
        Yeah I guess it's a matter of opinion but I know what u mean and u know what I mean... (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jul 15, 14:48:28
        
        the guy on the radio this morning.. (General Chat) - camcan, Jul 15, 14:48:09
        
        Did it work? (n/m) (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Jul 15, 14:52:51
        
        what the not smoking bit?? (General Chat) - camcan, Jul 15, 14:53:50
        
        Oh right. Well scub that theory then. (General Chat) - roywallerslovechild, Jul 15, 14:43:27
        
        As I said earlier... (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Jul 15, 14:48:24
        
        For all RWLC's joking, I was actually offered a job there in March! (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jul 15, 14:53:20
        
        And I assume you selfishly declined the offer... (General Chat) - Fierce Panda, Jul 15, 15:07:10

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