Plus ca change
Back in the grim days of 2000 we signed Steve Walsh. Walsh was unsure about it because he didn't feel he was fit. But, to our cost, someone decided he was fit enough and we signed him anyway.
Back in the grim days of 2005 we signed Bill Owen - much to his own surprise. He also passed a medical - but never appears to have been fit since.
So, are the same medical staff that passed Walsh the ones that passed Thorne?
Are our medicals stringent enough? When was the last time anyone failed a medical with us (I can't remember it ever happening - can you?).
How do we assess new signings' fitness, and physical capability to do the job? Because looking at some of our recent signings they don't appear to be physically up to the rigours of Championship football even when fully "fit". I would put Robinson, Etuhu, Thorne, and probably Crofty in that category.
What exactly do our medical staff do? At the start of last season - even from the stands - it was apparent that Huckerby was struggling physically. Months later it emerged that he had been suffering from glandular fever which the medical staff had not spotted. A year before, and just after playing a game, Gary Holt nearly died on the coach home. This, presumably, was a bolt from the blue for the medical staff too. Who is responsible for monitoring player's well-being?
Last season Reynolds advised Ashton not to play - but he did anyway, and exacerbated his injury. Robinson played against Preston and exacerbated his rib injury. Huckerby played injured (for just a few minutes) at Coventry - with inevitable results? It can't be right that someone whose sole medical qualification is playing left-back for Sheffield Wednesday (or in Celtic's midfield for that matter) can be making those decisions.
Doncaster has decided that discussing the problems of the past is a waste of time now that Worthington - the man in whom he and the board placed so much faith - has gone. Not so, whilst we still have the same scouts, and the same medical staff, and whilst the board continues its policy of taking no interest in transfers, it is inevitable that Grant will make the same sort of blunders that Worthington did. And we really don't have the money to waste any more.
In a few month's time we'll find out how much Doncaster gets paid for not attending to these matters. In the meantime he can get on with thinking about more important things - like, if we put a little more swede, and a little less beef in the pasties can we boost catering profits by twenty quid over the next financial year?
Posted By: Kelly Monteith on January 16th 2007 at 11:10:03
Message Thread
- Plus ca change (NCFC) - Kelly Monteith, Jan 16, 11:10:03
- That 'day in the life of an agent' story on bbc last year (NCFC) - lurd, Jan 16, 11:51:26
- Would be interesting to know how louis jean passed it (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jan 16, 11:52:22
- Maybe he burst into tears (n/m) (NCFC) - iwans_ex_dentist, Jan 16, 11:59:01
- or held someone at gun point (n/m) (NCFC) - iwans_ex_dentist, Jan 16, 11:59:09
- Or there's various levels of medical, due to the clubs medical insurance, and the players (NCFC) - pants, Jan 16, 12:02:06
- or held someone at gun point (n/m) (NCFC) - iwans_ex_dentist, Jan 16, 11:59:09
- He was fully fit when we signed him, then he picked up a long-term injury. (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jan 16, 11:55:12
- He was creaking like a 1968 Morris 1100 going uphill against the wind when we signed him (NCFC) - Old Git, Jan 16, 12:03:56
- Louis-Jean = Morrie Thou' (NCFC) - Arizona Bay, Jan 16, 12:14:44
- Do we know what we shatem is earning (NCFC) - pants, Jan 16, 12:05:19
- Who is "we shatem"? (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Jan 16, 12:11:07
- my french is a bit rubbish (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jan 16, 12:12:42
- your brain is a bit rubbish (n/m) (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Jan 16, 12:18:06
- my french is a bit rubbish (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jan 16, 12:12:42
- Who is "we shatem"? (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Jan 16, 12:11:07
- maybe he does it to wind you all up (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jan 16, 12:03:36
- Correct. Agree. (n/m) (NCFC) - Snakey, Jan 16, 12:00:24
- That happened to Thorne too (NCFC) - pants, Jan 16, 11:56:33
- No it didn't - Thorne's had loads of little injuries. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jan 16, 11:57:35
- He was creaking like a 1968 Morris 1100 going uphill against the wind when we signed him (NCFC) - Old Git, Jan 16, 12:03:56
- Maybe he burst into tears (n/m) (NCFC) - iwans_ex_dentist, Jan 16, 11:59:01
- Would be interesting to know how louis jean passed it (n/m) (NCFC) - pants, Jan 16, 11:52:22
- That 'day in the life of an agent' story on bbc last year (NCFC) - lurd, Jan 16, 11:49:05
- Wasn't Pluke Chadwicks stamina a major concern at Joke City? (n/m) (NCFC) - Chops, Jan 16, 11:21:33
- because he was driving from canbridge to stoke 5/6 days a week (n/m) (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Jan 16, 12:16:41
- cambridge (n/m) (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Jan 16, 12:21:16
- because he was driving from canbridge to stoke 5/6 days a week (n/m) (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Jan 16, 12:16:41
- Agree but (NCFC) - Snakey, Jan 16, 11:18:37
- Disagree I think (NCFC) - Kelly Monteith, Jan 16, 11:53:03
- You argue a good point. But as you say, what does it matter. (NCFC) - Snakey, Jan 16, 12:03:25
- Disagree I think (NCFC) - Kelly Monteith, Jan 16, 11:53:03
- And while you're at it, what's the deal with our scouting network? (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jan 16, 11:17:56
- Infrastructure (NCFC) - Kelly Monteith, Jan 16, 11:33:38
- wrong, (NCFC) - NCFC4life, Jan 16, 11:41:10
- You have got me confused (NCFC) - Kelly Monteith, Jan 16, 11:43:39
- no, what i'm saying is, (NCFC) - NCFC4life, Jan 16, 11:48:51
- You have got me confused (NCFC) - Kelly Monteith, Jan 16, 11:43:39
- Academy structure changed when Morgan went (NCFC) - trt354, Jan 16, 11:39:39
- wrong, (NCFC) - NCFC4life, Jan 16, 11:41:10
- It's gone on the wages of Thorne, Hughes, Bobinson and Ebooboo & Co (NCFC) - Old Git, Jan 16, 11:25:56
- You're just trying to depress me, aren't you? (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jan 16, 11:26:48
- Misery loves company (NCFC) - Old Git, Jan 16, 11:48:53
- You're just trying to depress me, aren't you? (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jan 16, 11:26:48
- Its going on a new multi storey car park at the rear of the Jarrold stand (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Jan 16, 11:21:02
- What about a Bronze statue of Chase outside the club shop. (NCFC) - Snakey, Jan 16, 11:26:11
- It started well but ended badly under Chase (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Jan 16, 11:28:13
- For my money, what I think happened under Chase was inevitable ... (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jan 16, 11:31:07
- To be fair though, despite selling all our players, (NCFC) - NCFC4life, Jan 16, 11:38:41
- Correct (NCFC) - Kelly Monteith, Jan 16, 11:37:56
- Eveything is inevitable (NCFC) - Chops, Jan 16, 11:37:33
- Fair point. (NCFC) - Snakey, Jan 16, 11:35:18
- I think it's a little unfair to suggest Walker v1.0 was purely fortunate. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jan 16, 11:37:50
- Agree but Walker was exposed at Everton. (NCFC) - Snakey, Jan 16, 11:47:23
- Well arguably (NCFC) - Kelly Monteith, Jan 16, 11:57:00
- Finally we meet with total agreement. (n/m) (NCFC) - Snakey, Jan 16, 12:05:01
- Well arguably (NCFC) - Kelly Monteith, Jan 16, 11:57:00
- The second coming (NCFC) - Kelly Monteith, Jan 16, 11:40:55
- Agree but Walker was exposed at Everton. (NCFC) - Snakey, Jan 16, 11:47:23
- I think it's a little unfair to suggest Walker v1.0 was purely fortunate. (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jan 16, 11:37:50
- For my money, what I think happened under Chase was inevitable ... (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jan 16, 11:31:07
- It started well but ended badly under Chase (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Jan 16, 11:28:13
- What about a Bronze statue of Chase outside the club shop. (NCFC) - Snakey, Jan 16, 11:26:11
- Infrastructure (NCFC) - Kelly Monteith, Jan 16, 11:33:38
- That's an incredible revelation (NCFC) - Chops, Jan 16, 11:14:44
- Agreed BUT (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Jan 16, 11:13:13
- I suppose it goes on at all clubs to an extent (NCFC) - Chops, Jan 16, 11:16:44
- Fitness checks done on NHS outpatients at Norfolk and Norwich (n/m) (NCFC) - harleston1933, Jan 16, 11:12:02
- That 'day in the life of an agent' story on bbc last year (NCFC) - lurd, Jan 16, 11:51:26
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