people won't reflect on this at all but i'd stand starmer a pint

he had the cojones not to suck up to trump and drag us into yet another pointless war in the middle east.

the parents/spouses/siblings/children etc of many many lads won't experience the grief and pain that so many have been going through and continue to go through over recent conflicts in iraq and afghanistan. let alone the personal trauma, both physical and mental that those lads/lasses themselves continue to endure. so yeah i'd f**king be happy to stand kier starmer a pint, too right i would. it's oh so very easy to snide from the sidelines.

then there is his unwvering support for ukraine. that'd be another pint for sure. he resisted the chance to let ukraine slide down the agenda when trump's america became more erratic and started drifting more and more toward appeasing putin.

also, his leadership along with macron on the co-allition of the willing has reforged some strong bonds with our european/canadian/aus and nz allies. pretty sure if this hadn't happened then ukraine would have been carved up by now and western europe would be next on putins radar. deranged usa trump doesn't give a f**k.

domestically yes he's been very poor, uninspiring and overly cautious agreed but his good outweighs his bad on my tally sheet.

he leaves behind not a small legacy.

Posted By: Tombs on June 22nd 2026 at 10:28:05

Message Thread

Resign Starmer (n/m) (General Chat) - Duck, Jun 22, 09:22:21
- 100th reply (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 22, 12:04:18
  - And it was shit (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Jun 22, 13:01:54
    - WTII? (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Jun 22, 13:09:27
    - Well there it is (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 22, 13:03:04
      - There we are then (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 22, 13:11:45
        
        Details (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 22, 13:15:54
  - 101 (n/m) (General Chat) - Charles21, Jun 22, 12:27:01
- but he said on Friday that he would fight a challenge! (General Chat) - shoddy, Jun 22, 10:55:20
  - He’s no Macron (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 22, 11:06:42
    - Macron had approval ratings of just over 10% not so long ago (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Jun 22, 11:20:28
    - Starmer has never been as unpopular as Macron domestically! (General Chat) - shoddy, Jun 22, 11:13:25
- His Labour leadership was a pack of lies from start to finish - it won't change anything (General Chat) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Jun 22, 10:19:20
- The Liam Manning of politics. “It’s one of those” could be his epitaph. (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 22, 10:09:43
  - The one redeeming thing about Manning (General Chat) - Snakepit Divorceee, Jun 22, 10:13:35
    - 😁 (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 22, 10:14:37
- I’m not a Labour man but I really hope Burnham can do something positive (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 22, 10:07:57
  - 10 years ago the country was promised a better future (General Chat) - footymadman, Jun 22, 10:32:38
  - I agree re. the division, Brexit, UKIP, Reform or whatever started it, I cannot see (General Chat) - BSE Canary, Jun 22, 10:21:36
    - I have a simple theory (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 22, 10:24:20
      - Haha like there’s any justice any more (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 22, 10:26:18
        
        This was a party political broadcast on behalf of the Shoot Them In The Face Party (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 22, 10:56:47
        
        VMT (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 22, 11:09:13
  - I hope so too. Burnham’s had so many political flavours it’s hard to speculate (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 22, 10:11:57
    - I read that he's got some big hitter economists advising him to avoid that (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 22, 10:17:45
      - Please God not this clown 🤣 (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 22, 10:20:10
        
        haha, no (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 22, 10:20:59
    - He will get a nasty shock if he does! (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 22, 10:14:50
      - Would even reform be able to tackle that? (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 22, 10:19:11
        
        Somebody needs to try (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 22, 10:21:43
        
        Starmer tried a bit but backbenchers blocked him (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 22, 10:23:20
        
        That’s true (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 22, 10:25:40
        
        Because they'd have kicked him out (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 22, 10:27:35
        
        That was his big problem really (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 22, 11:13:55
        
        his other big problem is that I'm not sure he had a plan? (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 22, 14:04:52
        
        & what's burnham's plan, I wonder, that we're all meant to be so pleased about? (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 22, 14:19:36
        
        easy (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 22, 14:43:12
        
        More of the same I imagine. (General Chat) - phrankin, Jun 22, 15:29:24
        
        Nationalising water for a start. GTFI (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 22, 14:28:04
        
        Gets my vote (General Chat) - phrankin, Jun 22, 14:41:54
        
        The PM resigned this morning. Chill. (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Jun 22, 14:25:02
        
        VMT. However some of the hills he did chose to die on (and then did a u-turn) were ill (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Jun 22, 11:39:46
      - No (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 22, 10:15:57
    - Already done a u-turn the other week (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 22, 10:14:30
      - Why the numbers?? (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 22, 10:15:30
        
        Dunno 🤷‍♂️ (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 22, 10:16:45
        
        😁 (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 22, 10:18:02
  - agreed (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 22, 10:11:32
  - Amen (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Jun 22, 10:10:27
- He’s been an utter catastrophe from start to finish (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 22, 09:58:49
  - Lol - that's a terrible example (General Chat) - norwaay, Jun 22, 10:01:52
    - I think generally he is viewed as not being a disaster (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 22, 10:03:41
      - Blair was super popular until Iraq (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 22, 10:05:49
        
        people won't reflect on this at all but i'd stand starmer a pint (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 22, 10:28:05
        
        3000+ vexatious claims against veterans (General Chat) - Pat mustard, Jun 22, 14:18:11
        
        💯 (n/m) (General Chat) - JurgenColin, Jun 22, 13:10:07
        
        VMT (n/m) (General Chat) - Azteca, Jun 22, 13:07:24
        
        🎯🎯🎯 (n/m) (General Chat) - Snakepit Divorceee, Jun 22, 13:05:08
        
        Well said on all fronts Tombs (General Chat) - Under soil heating, Jun 22, 11:38:30
        
        Yep, Burnham will be hated by the next election, which he will lose (General Chat) - megson, Jun 22, 12:56:19
        
        You can hardly blame the right, and surely not mid term pollinng (General Chat) - phrankin, Jun 22, 14:05:44
        
        Exactly this. (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Jun 22, 10:32:36
        
        That's his big plus point - he is respected internationally (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 22, 10:32:09
        
        Would rather he did something positive here in Britain (General Chat) - phrankin, Jun 22, 10:39:02
        
        Things that happen globally have a vast impact on us - and everyone else (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 22, 10:41:16
        
        Of course? And what little difference has anything Starmer said (General Chat) - phrankin, Jun 22, 11:10:29
        
        i'm still cock-a-hoop that fuel prices have spiralled up because of trump (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 22, 10:44:22
        
        It's less to do with the impact (General Chat) - phrankin, Jun 22, 11:12:07
        
        ukr hitting back big yesterday in crimea (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 22, 10:38:44
        
        👍 (n/m) (General Chat) - Chris Peacock, Jun 22, 10:31:41
        
        Agreed, not getting involved in another war across the globe (General Chat) - phrankin, Jun 22, 10:30:43
        
        True (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 22, 10:10:05
- Trump would always put himself not the people/country first (General Chat) - footymadman, Jun 22, 09:42:41
- What's that music playing? (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 22, 09:33:51
  - Steve fucking Bray (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 22, 09:34:52
    - What a twat (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Jun 22, 09:42:44
    - I assumed he'd given up after getting rid of the Tories (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 22, 09:36:18
      - Nope, he's still there. Loving the attention, I would guess. (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 22, 09:37:18
        
        At least he’s balanced in his criticism lol (n/m) (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 22, 09:59:56
        
        Looks like the cops are about to shut him up (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 22, 09:38:29
        
        He’s very annoying but pretty sad (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 22, 10:13:26
- and dont let the door hit your arse on the way out (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 22, 09:32:37
  - twat (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 22, 09:54:53
  - and he's blubbing (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 22, 09:38:45
    - ...and your problem with that is? (n/m) (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Jun 22, 11:32:57
    - twat (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 22, 09:54:35
    - So did Thatcher (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 22, 09:39:06
      - i bet you are as well (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 22, 09:41:10
        
        twat (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 22, 09:55:05
        
        come on .... (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 22, 10:29:57
        
        you can't (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 22, 10:32:12
        
        🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣...... (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Jun 22, 11:03:29
        
        well, it's your backronym (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Jun 22, 11:48:12
        
        Not at all. Correct decision (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 22, 09:41:56
        
        Also not a Starmer fan but was still better than any of the tory PMs in recent years (n/m) (General Chat) - footymadman, Jun 22, 09:48:34
        
        He did very little different to Sunak (General Chat) - phrankin, Jun 22, 09:53:15
        
        Sunak was given a hospital pass when he took over (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 22, 10:01:54
        
        Starmer received exactly the same pass. (General Chat) - Snakepit Divorceee, Jun 22, 13:08:02
        
        Dis the right wing press send all the lefties to the Green party? (n/m) (General Chat) - phrankin, Jun 22, 16:49:12
        
        The country was every bit as fucked when Starmer took over (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 22, 10:05:06
        
        The key thing now (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 22, 10:10:25
        
        Didn't you say recently (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 22, 14:17:42
        
        VMT (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jun 22, 10:08:12
- We are ungovernable. (General Chat) - Snakepit Divorceee, Jun 22, 09:29:23
  - completely disagree; we've been governed by morons, by and large, in recent times (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 22, 09:44:26
    - Whatever Keir Starmer is, he's not a moron (General Chat) - norwaay, Jun 22, 09:54:30
    - Johnson and Truss, certainly. (General Chat) - Snakepit Divorceee, Jun 22, 09:48:41
    - Disagree, just read some Dominic Cummings (General Chat) - phrankin, Jun 22, 09:45:17
      - internally ungovernable not the same as ungovernable as a people (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 22, 09:52:36
        
        The world is a mess (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 22, 09:55:43
        
        It's impossible for the government to enact meaningful change (General Chat) - phrankin, Jun 22, 09:54:10
  - Can't blame him for leaving. Worst job ever. (n/m) (General Chat) - Trent_Canary, Jun 22, 09:38:27
    - Impossible poison chalice post Brexit (n/m) (General Chat) - footymadman, Jun 22, 09:39:27
      - Impossible to get anything through the civil service (General Chat) - phrankin, Jun 22, 09:44:39
- I look forward to Burnham derangement syndrome (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 22, 09:29:12
  - the derangement is thinking that he's somehow the obvious answer (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 22, 09:45:38
    - Who should be PM? from any party (n/m) (General Chat) - footymadman, Jun 22, 09:54:45
    - He's only the obvious answer on the basis of *current* (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 22, 09:47:21
      - government by approval ratings -what could possibly go wrong (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 22, 09:53:38
        
        As per my reply above, I'm sure he'll soon be unpopular (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 22, 09:56:59
        
        yes - probably - but you must live by your beliefs and decisions (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 22, 10:14:58
        
        TBH some changey whangey hope type vibes would make a nice change! (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Jun 22, 10:17:24
      - Here (General Chat) - jamesward, Jun 22, 09:48:06

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