I'm not saying its right or wrong...cos you'll get some people

who will miss no matter what but I think the valid point is that 2 equal players taking a pen, the one that is mentally fresher will score more often than a fatigued player.

We relied on 2 takers that haven't had the most confidence plus 3 other, carragher must have been brought on cos he was the one willing to take a pen.

Posted By: Swiss Yellow on July 3rd 2006 at 10:04:06

Message Thread

Germany's penalties (Other Football) - Old Git, Jul 3, 09:36:48
- Yeah, I said this on Saturday night. (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jul 3, 10:04:09
  - but apparently we DID practice them every training session (Other Football) - mr carra, Jul 3, 10:11:03
    - You can't replicate 40 years of missed pens on the big stage (Other Football) - HoofinHughes, Jul 3, 10:19:57
      - Mental Strength, Pressure, Bottle. Usual platitudes. (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jul 3, 10:27:35
        
        That is just bollocks (Other Football) - Old Git, Jul 3, 10:33:53
        
        Yeah but like someone else said the more times we go out on pens (Other Football) - HoofinHughes, Jul 3, 10:31:38
        
        Careful. You'll get put on his List, forever to be the subject ... (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, Jul 3, 10:30:27
        
        zzzzz get over it old man (n/m) (Other Football) - HoofinHughes, Jul 3, 10:33:25
        
        See what I mean? (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, Jul 3, 10:35:11
        
        He's told me you hold a silly grudge against him (Other Football) - HoofinHughes, Jul 3, 10:39:24
      - No, but surely if you have a rigid plan (Other Football) - WorthyHatesFans, Jul 3, 10:22:25
    - "Can't recreate the pressure" (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jul 3, 10:19:03
      - Didn't Ade do something similar with Watford too... (Other Football) - Swiss Yellow, Jul 3, 10:22:15
    - You can. Do it in practice and threaten to drop the cunts who miss. (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 3, 10:11:49
      - LOL (n/m) (Other Football) - mr carra, Jul 3, 10:13:46
- And a german scored our only penalty on Saturday... (Other Football) - Swiss Yellow, Jul 3, 09:47:00
  - I thought at the time: this is set up for Walcott. (Other Football) - yarmyyarmy, Jul 3, 10:06:05
  - Sven was going to get scapegoated WHATEVER he did (Other Football) - mr carra, Jul 3, 10:00:32
    - I totally agree with that (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jul 3, 10:14:22
      - Do you agree that taking Walcott as one of (Other Football) - WorthyHatesFans, Jul 3, 10:18:12
        
        Don't think it made much difference (Other Football) - mr carra, Jul 3, 10:31:13
        
        You're both forgetting some of the really shit strikers (Other Football) - WorthyHatesFans, Jul 3, 10:33:57
        
        I think we're really short of decent strikers (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jul 3, 10:20:53
        
        It was still the wrong decision (n/m) (Other Football) - WorthyHatesFans, Jul 3, 10:25:17
        
        Trouble is, I don't think there was a RIGHT decision (Other Football) - mr carra, Jul 3, 10:44:27
    - I agree Sven was going to get it whatever... (Other Football) - Swiss Yellow, Jul 3, 10:07:13
  - I thought we'd do it when they missed (Other Football) - WorthyHatesFans, Jul 3, 09:50:52
    - The yank co-commentator made an interesting point...surprisingly (Other Football) - Swiss Yellow, Jul 3, 09:55:45
      - So Eriksson was right to have Carragher take a penalty then ? (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 3, 09:56:39
        
        I'm not saying its right or wrong...cos you'll get some people (Other Football) - Swiss Yellow, Jul 3, 10:04:06
        
        no England player is "mentally fresh" when it comes to shootouts (Other Football) - mr carra, Jul 3, 10:06:58
        
        Yep... (Other Football) - Declan, Jul 3, 10:06:32
        
        exactly...younger players have a no fear attitude (n/m) (Other Football) - Swiss Yellow, Jul 3, 10:13:05
        
        he was - he blasted his first one straight in (Other Football) - WorthyHatesFans, Jul 3, 09:58:47
        
        I'd score if the keeper was still waiting for a whistle as well (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 3, 09:59:35
        
        It was a confident and well struck penalty though (Other Football) - WorthyHatesFans, Jul 3, 10:02:38
        
        why did he change his style so totally for the second one? (Other Football) - mr carra, Jul 3, 10:08:30
        
        It was the side. He scored to the right and I said to the missus: (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 3, 10:09:55
        
        also the first one was high and the second one was low (n/m) (Other Football) - mr carra, Jul 3, 10:12:26
        
        I aren't so sure it was, he could barely look towards the goal as he ran up (n/m) (Other Football) - pants, Jul 3, 10:07:39
        
        Pants, please read this (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 3, 10:10:37
        
        Give it a break, Steve (Other Football) - Old Git, Jul 3, 10:13:35
        
        Are Steve in Holland and Dave in France (Other Football) - WorthyHatesFans, Jul 3, 10:19:10
        
        No we am not (n/m) (Other Football) - Steve in Holland, Jul 3, 10:45:37
        
        Ah, just both cunts then (n/m) (Other Football) - WorthyHatesFans, Jul 3, 10:52:25
        
        Fuck off you c*nt (Other Football) - Swiss Yellow, Jul 3, 10:23:27
        
        The "same" person. (n/m) (Other Football) - WorthyHatesFans, Jul 3, 10:20:29
        
        Shouldn't have changed his direction - stick with what you're most comfortable with... (n/m) (Other Football) - Declan, Jul 3, 10:07:02
- he thing about penalties (Other Football) - mr carra, Jul 3, 09:41:54
  - Yup, they are saddled with the weight of history and Pizza Hut (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Jul 3, 09:47:33
  - And, after the tournament he'd had, Lampard was (Other Football) - WorthyHatesFans, Jul 3, 09:43:47
    - neither would have inspired much confidence though (Other Football) - mr carra, Jul 3, 09:44:44
      - Gerrard was the real disappointment (Other Football) - Old Git, Jul 3, 09:49:21
      - It's confidence, but it's also (Other Football) - WorthyHatesFans, Jul 3, 09:48:49
        
        No, it's purely mental (Other Football) - Old Git, Jul 3, 09:53:05
        
        but Lampard missed one in the care-free friendly and... (Other Football) - Swiss Yellow, Jul 3, 10:00:11
        
        It is - it's lack of ability (Other Football) - WorthyHatesFans, Jul 3, 10:03:16
        
        Er, 12 yards. (n/m) (Other Football) - WorthyHatesFans, Jul 3, 09:48:56
        
        I think the England team has shown a lack of basic technique throughout the cup... (Other Football) - Swiss Yellow, Jul 3, 09:52:38
        
        ah, the "English game" (Other Football) - mr carra, Jul 3, 10:05:32
        
        totally agree with that (Other Football) - Tricky Hawes, Jul 3, 10:01:27
        
        Why does it happen though? (Other Football) - WorthyHatesFans, Jul 3, 10:05:31
        
        Its how the youngsters are tought to play, Charles Hughes has a lot to answer for (Other Football) - Swiss Yellow, Jul 3, 10:11:36
        
        Agree entirely - my lad goes to football sessions and (Other Football) - WorthyHatesFans, Jul 3, 10:16:34
        
        More kids need to go to those brazilian skills schools (Other Football) - Arizona Bay, Jul 3, 10:14:59
        
        I suspect Worthington maybe banning them in the norfolk area for the forseeable future (n/m) (Other Football) - Swiss Yellow, Jul 3, 10:20:08
  - *the* (n/m) (Other Football) - mr carra, Jul 3, 09:42:09

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