But that doesn't really work except at a very basic level

See eg the raging debate about whether the Greens are anti semitic or not, whether Anti zionism is racist or not, where river to sea etc etc is racist or not, whether enforcing national borders is racist or not etc.
The whole territory is contested.

Posted By: paulg on March 28th 2026 at 11:19:37

Message Thread

I’m never comfortable gloating over Ipswich (Other Football) - APB, Mar 28, 10:11:33
- Always take the opportunity to gloat (Other Football) - seminated_woolly, Mar 28, 16:42:51
- I love gloating over Piswich (Other Football) - Old Git, Mar 28, 13:04:10
  - 100% and really none of this needs to be taken too seriously (Other Football) - norwaay, Mar 28, 14:34:12
- I wasn't particularly reacting to your post as it happens (which basically i agree with) (Other Football) - paulg, Mar 28, 11:25:50
- Getting interested in the political views of a clubs owners (Other Football) - paulg, Mar 28, 10:30:35
  - I have no interest in the political leaning of club officials (Other Football) - norwaay, Mar 28, 14:42:54
  - Good post and agree (Other Football) - JoeyDeacon, Mar 28, 14:12:47
    - Your issue with inane point scoring (Other Football) - norwaay, Mar 28, 14:44:15
      - You mean like this? (Other Football) - JoeyDeacon, Mar 28, 14:51:02
        
        I don't know, but you're the one talking about inane point scoring. (Other Football) - norwaay, Mar 28, 15:01:23
        
        It’s an example of extreme intolerance (Other Football) - JoeyDeacon, Mar 28, 15:19:50
        
        Indeed I wouldn't and I haven't. Are you suggesting I have? (Other Football) - norwaay, Mar 28, 15:32:56
        
        Your true views are very clear (Other Football) - JoeyDeacon, Mar 28, 15:46:52
        
        I don't think it could be more obvious what my personal views are. (Other Football) - norwaay, Mar 28, 16:24:19
        
        Yes agree your political views are obvious (Other Football) - JoeyDeacon, Mar 28, 16:44:38
        
        The implication that I would call all people who vote Reform, fascists. (Other Football) - norwaay, Mar 28, 16:48:43
        
        They are fascist supporters (n/m) (Other Football) - footymadman, Mar 28, 18:30:59
        
        A fair point. (Other Football) - JoeyDeacon, Mar 28, 16:56:02
        
        Well, ok - sarcasm then. (Other Football) - norwaay, Mar 28, 17:00:13
        
        Yes good idea (Other Football) - JoeyDeacon, Mar 28, 17:02:01
        
        😊 🤝 (n/m) (Other Football) - norwaay, Mar 28, 17:02:35
        
        Stop it boys (Other Football) - Old Git, Mar 28, 16:55:38
        
        👍🏻 (Other Football) - JoeyDeacon, Mar 28, 17:03:41
        
        🍻 (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Mar 28, 17:12:24
        
        👍 (n/m) (Other Football) - norwaay, Mar 28, 17:00:32
  - Call me cynical but most billionaires vote whichever way earns them the most. (n/m) (Other Football) - Men without hats, Mar 28, 12:47:05
  - I wasn’t just talking about politics, sorry if that’s how it seemed (Other Football) - APB, Mar 28, 11:18:13
  - I get that, but owners aren’t separate from the club, their money, decisions and values (Other Football) - The Gaffer, Mar 28, 10:35:11
    - There are numerous owners, numerous directors (Other Football) - paulg, Mar 28, 10:41:41
      - You might not care, but plenty of fans do. Ignoring who owns your club doesn’t make it (Other Football) - The Gaffer, Mar 28, 10:52:23
        
        when i go through the turnstile at carrow road (Other Football) - ghostof barry butler, Mar 28, 11:14:58
        
        I believe you just proved my point. (n/m) (Other Football) - The Gaffer, Mar 28, 11:45:00
        
        Sadly, not too far from where I sit, is a man who consistently shouts political stuff. (Other Football) - Boyer, Mar 28, 11:29:13
        
        if you are not sure but it's making you uncomfortable then report it (Other Football) - Tombs, Mar 28, 11:59:57
        
        VMT - do it. No place for racism at Carrow (n/m) (Other Football) - Kentish Canary, Mar 28, 20:42:11
        
        Indeedly (Other Football) - Cardiff Canary, Mar 28, 12:08:46
        
        You only want to support a club with owners who share your views? (n/m) (Other Football) - paulg, Mar 28, 11:11:04
        
        That’s a bit of a straw man. I’m not saying I need to agree with them, just (Other Football) - The Gaffer, Mar 28, 11:41:57
        
        Views and values influence what people do, obviously (Other Football) - paulg, Mar 28, 11:55:26
        
        There are many examples: Qatar Sports Investments, Sheik Mansour, Abramovich, Berlusconi (Other Football) - The Gaffer, Mar 28, 12:27:54
        
        Supporting reform is hardly on the same scale as being a Russian oligarch (Other Football) - paulg, Mar 28, 13:16:10
        
        It's largely a bunch of virtue signalling nonsense (Other Football) - phrankin, Mar 28, 12:40:53
        
        No need to share views but non racist/homophobic non negotiable (n/m) (Other Football) - loz, Mar 28, 11:14:51
        
        But that doesn't really work except at a very basic level (Other Football) - paulg, Mar 28, 11:19:37
- Based on his donations, he leans Democrat but isn’t strongly tied to one party. (n/m) (Other Football) - The Gaffer, Mar 28, 10:30:25
- Attanasio donates to the Democrats apparently (Other Football) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Mar 28, 10:29:33
  - Trump was a member of the democratic party before he was a Republican. (Other Football) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Mar 28, 10:39:16
    - no he wasn't (Other Football) - Tombs, Mar 28, 10:45:32
      - ? (n/m) (Other Football) - ghostof barry butler, Mar 28, 11:45:04
      - Thassa rummern boi. (n/m) (Other Football) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Mar 28, 10:51:47
  - I bet (n/m) (Other Football) - APB, Mar 28, 10:33:21
    - Attanasio is a billionaire as i understand it (Other Football) - paulg, Mar 28, 10:44:07
  - Maybe we should vet all staff and players? (Other Football) - paulg, Mar 28, 10:32:07
- Agreed (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Mar 28, 10:29:27
  - Gloat. Float. Whatever (n/m) (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Mar 28, 10:29:39

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