I actually thought his original point wasn't unreasonable

that managers aren't the be all and end all.

But this is the worst argument ever.

Carrick isn't responsible for Man U's improvement because he failed at Middlesbrough?

Fucking LOOOOL

Posted By: norwaay on January 26th 2026 at 08:31:02

Message Thread

“Managers don’t matter” part 35 (Other Football) - Old Git, Jan 25, 18:28:45
- The same Michael Carrick who was fired in June from Middlesbrough (Other Football) - usacanary, Jan 25, 21:19:15
  - Some squads react better under different managers (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jan 25, 21:34:50
    - ahhh.... so the only difference is the players...... (Other Football) - usacanary, Jan 25, 21:42:45
      - That’s quite a badly failed attempted recovery. (n/m) (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jan 25, 21:48:18
        
        I actually thought his original point wasn't unreasonable (Other Football) - norwaay, Jan 26, 08:31:02
      - The only difference is the way the players are playing (Other Football) - Old Git, Jan 25, 21:44:47
        
        The same manager who was sacked by Boro.... (Other Football) - usacanary, Jan 25, 21:51:16
        
        It’s chemistry sometimes, isn’t it? (Other Football) - Old Git, Jan 25, 22:12:08
        
        It’s always “chemistry” (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jan 25, 23:13:04
- Pretty sure no one has ever said managers don’t matter. (n/m) (Other Football) - Snakepit Divorceee, Jan 25, 19:20:58
  - Somebody has… (n/m) (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jan 25, 20:01:07
    - In fairness I think he said that people overrate the importance of managers. But that (Other Football) - The Gaffer, Jan 25, 20:12:34
      - This is at least begrudging honesty. (Other Football) - usacanary, Jan 25, 21:21:03
      - Who said this? (n/m) (Other Football) - Snakepit Divorceee, Jan 25, 20:48:21
        
        Ahhh… Should have known. (n/m) (Other Football) - Snakepit Divorceee, Jan 25, 20:56:38
        
        It's an anagram of Racy Sauna (n/m) (Other Football) - Lentil Weaver, Jan 25, 20:53:55
        
        Come round (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Jan 25, 20:56:24
        
        I'm going round to jumbo's for a stiff drink (n/m) (Other Football) - Lentil Weaver, Jan 25, 20:59:24
        
        All you’ll get there is a Virgin Mary (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Jan 25, 22:13:01
        
        YOU SCHLUBZ (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Jan 25, 20:52:56
        
        Don’t, you’ll summon him (n/m) (Other Football) - jamesward, Jan 25, 20:50:39
        
        pants summoned him up earlier (Other Football) - Tombs, Jan 25, 21:02:41
        
        GRASS (n/m) (Other Football) - Lentil Weaver, Jan 25, 21:58:44
        
        my bad (Other Football) - Tombs, Jan 25, 22:03:47
        
        :) (n/m) (Other Football) - Lentil Weaver, Jan 25, 22:30:47
        
        you're a good un (Other Football) - Tombs, Jan 25, 22:36:45
        
        My haterz are my biggest fans......If Im not around you miss me. (Other Football) - usacanary, Jan 25, 21:23:10
        
        Are you leaving??? (Other Football) - Kev, Jan 25, 23:01:52
        
        Ha ha (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Jan 25, 20:56:50
- Oh no (n/m) (Other Football) - APB, Jan 25, 19:08:36
  - ha ha (n/m) (Other Football) - Lentil Weaver, Jan 25, 20:35:23
- Well system does that’s for sure (n/m) (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jan 25, 18:47:16
- No no no. It's the same players, so it's the players. (n/m) (Other Football) - Yellalee, Jan 25, 18:36:12
  - or maybe they hated the previous manager or in our case.... (Other Football) - usacanary, Jan 25, 21:30:58
  - They’ve just suddenly decided to play better (n/m) (Other Football) - jamesward, Jan 25, 18:37:39
    - Doesnt that happen too most new managers.... (Other Football) - usacanary, Jan 25, 21:27:07
      - Agreed (n/m) (Other Football) - jamesward, Jan 25, 21:30:05
        
        FWIW I have talked about this before in regards to betting. (Other Football) - usacanary, Jan 25, 21:40:14
    - They’ve all started waking up at 4:30 to do world class basics (n/m) (Other Football) - Old Git, Jan 25, 18:56:07
      - The well documented extra training has def helped our team. (Other Football) - usacanary, Jan 25, 21:46:45
      - Behaviours (n/m) (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jan 25, 19:02:21
- Similar situation to us (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jan 25, 18:31:05
  - And the dreaded 3-4-3 (Other Football) - jamesward, Jan 25, 18:35:54
    - 3-4-1-2 (n/m) (Other Football) - Legacy Fan, Jan 25, 19:21:19
    - They’d rather be stubborn and take the payoff (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, Jan 25, 18:41:05

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