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# Norwich City: Relegation Inevitable

**Long-time fan’s assessment:**

**Why we’re doomed:**

- Premier League/Championship gap now insurmountable; Brexit ended European recruitment pipeline
- Post-COVID: every decision wrong - managers, transfers, leadership all failed
- Aging fanbase = dead atmosphere, no energy to lift struggling team
- Senior players not leading

**The Math:**
Need 66% improvement (0.75→1.25 PPG) *now* with injured squad, no confidence, no transfers until January, and management that keeps making bad calls.

**Reality:**
Sacking Manning/Knapper/Webber won’t help - won’t find effective replacements fast enough. League One certain, possibly for years.

*Club has “long COVID brain fog.”*

Posted By: footymadman on October 28th 2025 at 19:59:38

Message Thread

Why I think we’re going down (the demise of NCFC in too many words) (NCFC) - APB, Oct 28, 12:01:50
- AI Summary thanks to Claude Sonnet 4.5 (NCFC) - footymadman, Oct 28, 19:08:56
  - That’s not all that much shorter… (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Oct 28, 19:53:45
    - This is (NCFC) - footymadman, Oct 28, 19:59:38
      - It’s made some assumptions (inevitably) (NCFC) - APB, Oct 28, 22:17:03
- Get a job ffs (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Oct 28, 15:22:14
  - Tried that (NCFC) - APB, Oct 28, 15:27:20
- Good words, brother. (NCFC) - lurd, Oct 28, 14:28:54
  - The 2000-2002 boost in numbers and ST allocation (NCFC) - APB, Oct 28, 15:01:52
    - We all had our soul sucked out of us during the Hughton era (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 28, 15:09:55
- very good post (n/m) (NCFC) - Tony Martin, Oct 28, 13:48:48
- I know we're shit but surely there must be at least two teams worse than us this season (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 28, 13:32:34
  - It would be quite something for us and both Sheffield teams to go down (NCFC) - APB, Oct 28, 13:57:39
- Excellent, send it to thescrimmage@bbc.co.uk (n/m) (NCFC) - BSE Canary, Oct 28, 13:04:48
- Excellent post and drill down into the issues (NCFC) - norwaay, Oct 28, 12:42:10
  - sacking farke was the trauma we've not recovered from (NCFC) - paulg, Oct 28, 14:09:17
    - The real issue was the replacement (NCFC) - CWC, Oct 28, 16:43:43
      - This is my concern about sacking Manning (NCFC) - APB, Oct 28, 17:21:45
        
        the thing about manning is that I think he's taking us down (NCFC) - paulg, Oct 28, 19:12:30
        
        Their recent judgements haven’t filled me with confidence (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Oct 28, 19:54:55
      - not "worth a try" (NCFC) - paulg, Oct 28, 17:16:16
    - Sacking Farke was Webber blaming him for his appalling recruitment that summer (NCFC) - Under soil heating, Oct 28, 14:20:52
      - No accountability and ownership! All self serving (n/m) (NCFC) - footymadman, Oct 28, 19:13:14
      - precisely that; delia knew the decision was wrong; shd have stepped in (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Oct 28, 15:02:56
- Great points, I had largely forgotten the Brexit impact on transfers as well (NCFC) - megson, Oct 28, 12:37:43
- Also needs sending to the Attanasios (NCFC) - camcan, Oct 28, 12:37:31
- Excellent point regarding supporter churn (NCFC) - jAC, Oct 28, 12:07:11
  - Its the reason away games are far much more fun than home games (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Oct 28, 13:51:14
  - Sack the crowd (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 28, 13:43:56
    - Might be a sensible step to make renewal an act of commission (NCFC) - APB, Oct 28, 13:54:36
    - VMT. Get SCC in with a megaphone. (n/m) (NCFC) - JD3, Oct 28, 13:49:55
      - He's a right capo (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Oct 28, 13:54:01
  - Yes, and that's the issue with attracting new, younger, fans (NCFC) - jamesward, Oct 28, 12:15:15
    - tell me about it. I earn decent money as a CFO, but turn my nose up at some matches due to (NCFC) - Tony Martin, Oct 28, 13:52:44
      - Thinly veiled 'I'm a CFO' post :) (n/m) (NCFC) - JD3, Oct 28, 13:55:36
        
        Actually a thinly veiled “badly paid CFO if he notices £100” post (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Oct 28, 16:34:59

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