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Summary: Norwich City Fan’s Relegation Fears
A long-time Norwich City season ticket holder (30+ years, now in their 50s) explains why they believe the club is heading for relegation to League One:
Structural Football Changes:
	•	The gap between Premier League and lower leagues has massively widened since 2007/8
	•	Premier League clubs now hoard young players rather than loaning them to Championship clubs
	•	Brexit has killed their European recruitment pipeline (no more Pukki-type signings)
Post-COVID Mismanagement:
	•	Series of failed managerial appointments (Wagner, Thorup, Smith)
	•	Poor recruitment decisions, questionable player sales (including to rivals Ipswich)
	•	Sporting director Webber’s declining judgment
	•	General “brain fog” affecting all club decisions
Atmosphere Problem:
	•	The fanbase has aged with minimal turnover due to limited season ticket availability
	•	The passionate energy has drained from the stands
	•	Suggests a 3,000-5,000 seat stadium expansion to allow fresh blood and better atmosphere
The Impossible Math:
To survive, Norwich needs to improve from 0.75 to 1.25 points per game (66% improvement) immediately - with an injury-hit squad, shattered confidence, no transfer window for months, and the club’s proven track record of poor decisions.
Conclusion: Even wholesale leadership changes (Manning, Knapper, Zoe Webber) likely won’t work fast enough. League One seems inevitable, possibly for multiple seasons.
Posted By: footymadman on October 28th 2025 at 19:08:56
Message Thread
- Why I think we’re going down (the demise of NCFC in too many words) (NCFC) - APB, Oct 28, 12:01:50- AI Summary thanks to Claude Sonnet 4.5 (NCFC) - footymadman, Oct 28, 19:08:56- That’s not all that much shorter… (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Oct 28, 19:53:45- This is (NCFC) - footymadman, Oct 28, 19:59:38- It’s made some assumptions (inevitably) (NCFC) - APB, Oct 28, 22:17:03
 
 
- This is (NCFC) - footymadman, Oct 28, 19:59:38
 
- That’s not all that much shorter… (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Oct 28, 19:53:45
- Get a job ffs (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Oct 28, 15:22:14- Tried that (NCFC) - APB, Oct 28, 15:27:20
 
- Good words, brother. (NCFC) - lurd, Oct 28, 14:28:54- The 2000-2002 boost in numbers and ST allocation (NCFC) - APB, Oct 28, 15:01:52- We all had our soul sucked out of us during the Hughton era (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 28, 15:09:55
 
 
- The 2000-2002 boost in numbers and ST allocation (NCFC) - APB, Oct 28, 15:01:52
- very good post (n/m) (NCFC) - Tony Martin, Oct 28, 13:48:48
- I know we're shit but surely there must be at least two teams worse than us this season (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 28, 13:32:34- It would be quite something for us and both Sheffield teams to go down (NCFC) - APB, Oct 28, 13:57:39
 
- Excellent, send it to thescrimmage@bbc.co.uk (n/m) (NCFC) - BSE Canary, Oct 28, 13:04:48
- Excellent post and drill down into the issues (NCFC) - norwaay, Oct 28, 12:42:10- sacking farke was the trauma we've not recovered from (NCFC) - paulg, Oct 28, 14:09:17- The real issue was the replacement (NCFC) - CWC, Oct 28, 16:43:43- This is my concern about sacking Manning (NCFC) - APB, Oct 28, 17:21:45- the thing about manning is that I think he's taking us down (NCFC) - paulg, Oct 28, 19:12:30- Their recent judgements haven’t filled me with confidence (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Oct 28, 19:54:55
 
 
- the thing about manning is that I think he's taking us down (NCFC) - paulg, Oct 28, 19:12:30
- not "worth a try" (NCFC) - paulg, Oct 28, 17:16:16
 
- This is my concern about sacking Manning (NCFC) - APB, Oct 28, 17:21:45
- Sacking Farke was Webber blaming him for his appalling recruitment that summer (NCFC) - Under soil heating, Oct 28, 14:20:52- No accountability and ownership! All self serving (n/m) (NCFC) - footymadman, Oct 28, 19:13:14
- precisely that; delia knew the decision was wrong; shd have stepped in (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Oct 28, 15:02:56
 
 
- The real issue was the replacement (NCFC) - CWC, Oct 28, 16:43:43
 
- sacking farke was the trauma we've not recovered from (NCFC) - paulg, Oct 28, 14:09:17
- Great points, I had largely forgotten the Brexit impact on transfers as well (NCFC) - megson, Oct 28, 12:37:43
- Also needs sending to the Attanasios (NCFC) - camcan, Oct 28, 12:37:31
- Excellent point regarding supporter churn (NCFC) - jAC, Oct 28, 12:07:11- Its the reason away games are far much more fun than home games (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Oct 28, 13:51:14
- Sack the crowd (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Oct 28, 13:43:56- Might be a sensible step to make renewal an act of commission (NCFC) - APB, Oct 28, 13:54:36
- VMT. Get SCC in with a megaphone. (n/m) (NCFC) - JD3, Oct 28, 13:49:55- He's a right capo (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Oct 28, 13:54:01
 
 
- Yes, and that's the issue with attracting new, younger, fans (NCFC) - jamesward, Oct 28, 12:15:15- tell me about it. I earn decent money as a CFO, but turn my nose up at some matches due to (NCFC) - Tony Martin, Oct 28, 13:52:44- Thinly veiled 'I'm a CFO' post :) (n/m) (NCFC) - JD3, Oct 28, 13:55:36- Actually a thinly veiled “badly paid CFO if he notices £100” post (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Oct 28, 16:34:59
 
 
- Thinly veiled 'I'm a CFO' post :) (n/m) (NCFC) - JD3, Oct 28, 13:55:36
 
- tell me about it. I earn decent money as a CFO, but turn my nose up at some matches due to (NCFC) - Tony Martin, Oct 28, 13:52:44
 
 
- AI Summary thanks to Claude Sonnet 4.5 (NCFC) - footymadman, Oct 28, 19:08:56
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