Here is a really good summary of the current state of immigration
User Posted Link
A key point: The UK is not out of line with other countries.
It is notable that the small boats migration is about 30-40%
of the asylum immigation (see also here: User Posted Link
In other words the vast amount of immigration to the UK is legal and to a certain, extent, encouraged.
The way in which small boats dominates the discourse is testement to the power of the right wing to set the agenda.
The difficult converstation that we need to have is that much of this immigration is needed. Health and care in particular would collapse further without immigration. Our universities are also on the brink, so cutting back on foreign students will push many under.
Furthermore, we are an aging society so we are going to need working aged immigration to support the retirement and care that many of us are expecting in the coming years.
So yes, we do need a proper debate about immigration, but it needs to be far more than 'stop the boats'.
Posted By: Knitted Jesus on June 28th 2025 at 09:35:28
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- Well done Starmer he has finally got something right! (General Chat) - McFly, Jun 28, 06:45:46
- Are you CHICKEN 🐔? *insert chicken cluck noise* (General Chat) - Chris Peacock, Jun 28, 07:14:39
- A pigeon actually (General Chat) - Lentil Weaver, Jun 28, 08:41:52
- And where is all this extra money going to come from? (General Chat) - LincolnshireCanary, Jun 28, 07:11:47
- Our children, and theirs (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Jun 28, 12:20:09
- One of the biggest problems in the UK is the high housing costs (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Jun 28, 08:20:09
- Good article (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 28, 09:05:32
- Here is a really good summary of the current state of immigration (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Jun 28, 09:35:28
- I should correct myself here also (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Jun 28, 09:51:52
- The boats are a distraction (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 28, 09:51:39
- I'm not sure I agree...the explosion of BTL and Airbnb has taken a huge amount of stock (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Jun 28, 09:54:42
- I have skin in the game as a landlord of 20+ years (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 28, 10:00:09
- I'm not sure I agree...the explosion of BTL and Airbnb has taken a huge amount of stock (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Jun 28, 09:54:42
- Here is a really good summary of the current state of immigration (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Jun 28, 09:35:28
- Good article (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 28, 09:05:32
- Tax the rich and feed the poor… (n/m) (General Chat) - McFly, Jun 28, 07:15:30
- Nice idea (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 28, 09:19:51
- Would be nice but like the freeze on allowances … (General Chat) - loz, Jun 28, 07:17:33
- This is an interesting read (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jun 28, 07:26:09
- Good article (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Jun 28, 09:08:26
- That is interesting. Thanks for providing. (n/m) (General Chat) - LincolnshireCanary, Jun 28, 07:28:18
- Lots of good stuff on that website (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jun 28, 07:31:11
- Dan's a fantastic man, he really is. (n/m) (General Chat) - NxNW, Jun 28, 07:46:44
- hi dan (n/m) (General Chat) - Chris Peacock, Jun 28, 11:43:53
- Dan's a fantastic man, he really is. (n/m) (General Chat) - NxNW, Jun 28, 07:46:44
- Lots of good stuff on that website (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jun 28, 07:31:11
- This is an interesting read (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Jun 28, 07:26:09
- Are you CHICKEN 🐔? *insert chicken cluck noise* (General Chat) - Chris Peacock, Jun 28, 07:14:39
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