It *was* a transition season - but with some gateway reviews to tick off

It was a transition season - but with some gateway reviews to tick off

These would probably have revolved around a sense of progress, player development, style, cohesion etc.

If the club got to March and thought that none of these were being ticked then fair enough.

I do have an issue with ZW's column though. It's as if she was trying to retrofit the season's goals. It was ham-fisted, inconsistent with previous messaging and unsettling.

I imagine when Knapper does his end of season interviews, the top six guff will be quietly shelved and the message about stalled progress within a longer term project will be to the fore.

Posted By: norwaay on April 30th 2025 at 15:13:16

Message Thread

JHT speaks about leaving NCFC (NCFC) - Klobo04, Apr 30, 13:21:00
- I’m confused what different decisions would have been made if he knew top 6 was the aim (NCFC) - Duck, Apr 30, 13:50:39
  - concede fewer goals perhaps? (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 30, 13:56:24
    - TBF we fell off a cliff. (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 30, 15:27:06
    - Knapper said then we should be targeting at least the play offs every season (NCFC) - Fenwood Lad, Apr 30, 15:25:57
      - apparently our football club is a "project" (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 30, 16:03:11
    - That Feb interview with knapper (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Apr 30, 14:20:29
    - "Norwich are next in action on Saturday when they travel to Blackburn Rovers" (NCFC) - Klobo04, Apr 30, 14:02:23
  - More pragmatic style? (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Apr 30, 13:52:10
    - I think his statement a few weeks after the WBA game fucked him. (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 30, 15:20:54
- Certainly ties in with those Zoe Webber program notes (NCFC) - inutero, Apr 30, 13:35:51
  - He wasn't sacked because of not reaching the top 6 (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Apr 30, 14:10:06
    - Could you flip some of that in his defence though? (NCFC) - Klobo04, Apr 30, 15:29:44
      - You'd think that a decent coach should be able to get the team playing the way he wanted (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Apr 30, 15:43:08
        
        Yes but it takes time and a refresh of players. (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Apr 30, 15:45:28
        
        needing a massive churn would imply a ridiculously stubborn adherence to a style (NCFC) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Apr 30, 17:52:36
        
        TBF he did vs WBA then had a strop saying he hated the style of play. (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 30, 17:58:17
      - 100% this. (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Apr 30, 15:39:14
        
        I suspect they didn't anticipate the bump in the road being results going off a cliff... (NCFC) - Pixelman, Apr 30, 15:49:51
        
        Possibly but the decision then is whether you hold your nerve and stick to your plans or (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Apr 30, 15:57:25
        
        All plans are off once the dressing room is lost (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 30, 16:47:56
        
        Not if you plan to change the dressing room. (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Apr 30, 17:16:32
        
        Huh? A lot of those players were ones he brought in. (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 30, 21:42:43
    - Nailed it.....Spitting truth bombs... (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 30, 15:19:04
      - You're missing the bigger picture. (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Apr 30, 15:41:08
        
        What is the bigger picture im missing? (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 30, 16:58:40
    - Personally I'd prefer not to play a style that suits Duffy. (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Apr 30, 15:18:17
    - *two of the top four (NCFC) - DJ Ginga, Apr 30, 15:06:17
      - i'm forgetting... (NCFC) - DJ Ginga, Apr 30, 16:20:30
        
        Came in with almost guarantee of the managers job (NCFC) - littletinyphil, Apr 30, 16:43:23
        
        I think you have to take these things at face value up to a point (NCFC) - norwaay, Apr 30, 17:08:08
        
        So not giving JHT his own back room appointment (NCFC) - littletinyphil, Apr 30, 17:17:16
        
        yep, absolutely; painted himself into a corner as someone mentioned on here today (NCFC) - DJ Ginga, Apr 30, 17:50:31
        
        can't also be asking the supporters for patience and then show none themselves (n/m) (NCFC) - DJ Ginga, Apr 30, 17:59:19
        
        Definitely, let’s hope he proves himself and signs (NCFC) - littletinyphil, Apr 30, 21:39:36
        
        expression credit: The Gaffer (NCFC) - DJ Ginga, Apr 30, 17:55:46
        
        Yep, that's fair enough (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Apr 30, 17:18:49
        
        Maybe they thought at the time that Hoff would do a blinder and get poached by Man Utd (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Apr 30, 16:46:40
        
        Maybe they could take Knapper too (n/m) (NCFC) - littletinyphil, Apr 30, 17:01:52
        
        23rd October 2024 ftr (n/m) (NCFC) - DJ Ginga, Apr 30, 16:33:12
        
        30th May 2024 for Hoff on a 3yr contract, ftr (n/m) (NCFC) - DJ Ginga, Apr 30, 16:34:34
        
        so he was backdoored five months into a three year project, ftr (n/m) (NCFC) - DJ Ginga, Apr 30, 17:41:53
    - Spot on (n/m) (NCFC) - roedtonowhere, Apr 30, 14:30:43
- I'm confused (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Apr 30, 13:34:43
  - I thought you said I was confused? (NCFC) - Chair_of_the_Bored, Apr 30, 20:26:51
  - its excude making 101....never admit anything. (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 30, 15:30:08
  - he must have had some say on recruitment (n/m) (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Apr 30, 13:42:09
    - Probably. But his points seems to be (NCFC) - Azteca, Apr 30, 13:44:52
  - Does he mean recruitment could have been players ready (NCFC) - littletinyphil, Apr 30, 13:41:21
    - The sounds from the club were consistently 'transitional' (n/m) (NCFC) - Azteca, Apr 30, 13:42:50
      - Yeah, that makes Zoe Webbers note more odd (NCFC) - littletinyphil, Apr 30, 13:48:05
        
        It *was* a transition season - but with some gateway reviews to tick off (NCFC) - norwaay, Apr 30, 15:13:16
        
        Possible they knew he was sacked when she wrote that? (NCFC) - littletinyphil, Apr 30, 15:26:25
        
        If the prog editor sees something that might raise a flag (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Apr 30, 15:22:52
        
        I imagine they just do what they're told. (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Apr 30, 15:45:34
        
        Always the best way to run things! (n/m) (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Apr 30, 16:43:39
  - I think there are few examples where he prioritised youth over experience (NCFC) - Klobo04, Apr 30, 13:38:31
    - Not convinced. (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Apr 30, 13:49:41
  - Surely loss of leaders I.e. Hanley , Barnes etc… (NCFC) - loz, Apr 30, 13:36:36
- Any chance of a translation please? (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Apr 30, 13:22:35
  - They're all cunts and I'm a genius (n/m) (NCFC) - LittleMouseWithClogs, Apr 30, 16:08:44
  - ... (NCFC) - Klobo04, Apr 30, 13:24:07
    - If what he says about expectations is true, that doesn't reflect well on Knapper / Club (n/m) (NCFC) - Azteca, Apr 30, 13:36:48
      - Fair point on bringing in his own staff as well… (NCFC) - loz, Apr 30, 13:37:48
        
        Is that line aimed at Wilshere? (NCFC) - littletinyphil, Apr 30, 15:41:53
    - Oh look, Jack's "terms of employment" (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 30, 13:25:49
      - Blimey (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Apr 30, 15:33:23
      - Nailed on job for Jack then feels a bit odd.. (NCFC) - loz, Apr 30, 13:33:08
        
        he'll get sacked (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 30, 13:42:05
        
        Not necessarily, I don't think Knapper expected him to (NCFC) - Azteca, Apr 30, 13:41:25
        
        Chances of a Champs manager lasting anywhere near 3/4 years are pretty remote (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 30, 13:55:47

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