Thats the problem

Trying to change the formation to accomodate all the best players rather than the other way round.

Fact is that both lampard and gerrard are twice as effective playing for their clubs as they are for England. lampard is at his best when he plays with makalele and Gerrard with Hamman or Alonso/Sissoko. Both regularly turn in match winning performances in the league and in the European Cup when they are playing top quality midfeilds who are as good as most international teams.

Posted By: Jim on June 12th 2006 at 11:58:05

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Sven Goran Erikkson is the international version of Nigel Worthington - discuss! (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 12, 11:27:54
- Damned if he does damned if he doesn't (NCFC) - pants, Jun 12, 11:38:49
  - pretty much everyone would pick the same England starting 11 (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 12, 11:40:36
    - There were glimpses though... (NCFC) - Dog, Jun 12, 11:46:18
      - Yes but why does everyone assume we will slowly improve (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 12, 11:49:57
        
        and yet despite all those "poor" performances.. (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 12, 11:54:28
        
        Well we were good against Hungary and Jamaica... (NCFC) - Dog, Jun 12, 11:53:59
    - It's the best eleven for your fantasy league in the paper (NCFC) - pants, Jun 12, 11:44:41
      - I would drop lampard (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 12, 11:47:16
        
        Carrick was pretty pants in the Belorussia game, unfortunately (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 12, 11:57:03
        
        He was playing in the "B" midfield though... (NCFC) - Dog, Jun 12, 11:58:02
        
        I'd do the same but dropping Gerrard instead of Lampard! (NCFC) - Old Git, Jun 12, 11:53:10
        
        I wouldn't argue with that either (NCFC) - pants, Jun 12, 11:53:07
        
        Thats the problem (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 12, 11:58:05
        
        I agree about the Lampard factor (NCFC) - pants, Jun 12, 12:20:24
        
        like Francis when he was here? (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 12, 12:25:29
        
        except he scored 20 more goals... (NCFC) - jonah3000, Jun 12, 12:26:55
        
        in a much better team (not a shit one) and taking penalties too (n/m) (NCFC) - mr carra, Jun 12, 12:49:00
        
        If I had to choose between them, so would I (NCFC) - duke of york, Jun 12, 11:52:27
        
        I have to say i've been defending hargreaves (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 12, 11:55:01
        
        he was okay when he came on saturday, he messed one clearance up, and you just (NCFC) - pants, Jun 12, 12:18:30
        
        20mins 12 seconds (NCFC) - camcan, Jun 12, 12:24:28
        
        Playing in a massive pressure game can't be easy (NCFC) - duke of york, Jun 12, 11:58:27
        
        little voice (NCFC) - camcan, Jun 12, 11:58:17
        
        But it did make him look like a total spacker (NCFC) - Old Git, Jun 12, 12:02:07
        
        like Gerrards pass back to James in Euro2004 (NCFC) - pants, Jun 12, 12:53:24
        
        I've forgotten that (NCFC) - Old Git, Jun 12, 13:01:17
        
        here (NCFC) - pants, Jun 12, 13:22:30
        
        and just when you'd thought he'd learnt from it (NCFC) - pants, Jun 12, 13:23:48
        
        Also doesn't help when you are booed before you even get on. (n/m) (NCFC) - yarmyyarmy, Jun 12, 11:56:45
        
        great shout... (NCFC) - jonah3000, Jun 12, 11:50:58
        
        Agree entirely (n/m) (NCFC) - Brom, Jun 12, 11:49:08
      - but you don't understand!!! (NCFC) - HairyBobbingManAss, Jun 12, 11:47:01
        
        and one other thing about lampoons (NCFC) - camcan, Jun 12, 11:59:39
        
        being from up t'north (NCFC) - pants, Jun 12, 11:49:58
- Are you trying to say that Nigel's been at it with.... (NCFC) - HairyBobbingManAss, Jun 12, 11:35:23
- No. has an eye for a player, and gambles on youth (Rooney at euros, Theo now) (n/m) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 12, 11:33:52
  - Him putting theo in the squad is like worthy (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 12, 11:38:26
    - but you totally miss the point that (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 12, 11:51:54
      - It did highlight that we don't have the players (without Rooney) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jun 12, 11:54:27
      - I don't belive him when he says that (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 12, 11:53:24
        
        Absolutely right Jim (NCFC) - Old Git, Jun 12, 11:57:17
    - so new conspiracy theory (NCFC) - camcan, Jun 12, 11:45:31
      - no idea - I just reckon Walcott is not ready and I don't understand why on earth he (NCFC) - Jim, Jun 12, 11:48:32
        
        in all my years of football supporting (NCFC) - camcan, Jun 12, 11:57:08
- Possibly! (NCFC) - conker, Jun 12, 11:29:07
  - italia 90 (NCFC) - south, Jun 12, 11:48:29

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