The biggest change I can see post-tenure is expectations

Under smith, there seemed to be a deluded view that we had a top 2 squad that was under performing.

I don't think anyone thinks that now, but we might have a squad capable of hitting the playoffs. As it stands though, even under Wagner, we haven't really shown that - Preston and Coventry performances were encouraging, as was Hull (prob the best of them all), Burnley, Bristol City and Wigan were all pretty poor though, with the performances looking not dissimilar to the type of thing Smith served up.

Other than Burnley, none of those sides are particularly good.

For what it's worth, I think Wagner is the better option, but I don't agree that Smith was particularly taking the squad backwards so much as the squad was simply demonstrating its ability.

Posted By: SimonOTBC on February 21st 2023 at 12:06:49

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Interesting part from Troy Deeney's autobiography.. (NCFC) - Bonjour, Feb 21, 08:49:46
- Coaches and managers are overrated ..... (NCFC) - usacanary, Feb 21, 16:00:35
- It is perfectly possible that excellent coaching (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Feb 21, 10:57:52
  - Walker at Everton (n/m) (NCFC) - The Gaffer, Feb 21, 11:03:29
  - Walker? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 21, 11:01:50
    - I never really entirely understood how Mike Walker even happened. (NCFC) - norwaay, Feb 21, 11:11:35
      - Walker inherited a very able squad & a couple of good kids (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Feb 21, 11:48:10
        
        A great time. (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Feb 21, 12:22:23
      - There's way way more randomness in football than we like to think (NCFC) - Bertie Russell, Feb 21, 11:44:18
    - How many posts ffs (NCFC) - ParrotPuncher, Feb 21, 11:02:43
      - something no one will ever say about your posts (NCFC) - Cable Gap Pioneer, Feb 21, 13:07:49
- I think football has evolved a lot since then (NCFC) - jAC, Feb 21, 09:48:27
  - Tbf, isn't that what Burnley do to us? (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 21, 11:24:55
  - Yeah I'd agree with much of that,and the game is moving on ar quite a pace. (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Feb 21, 09:52:11
  - you're only as good as your last job (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Feb 21, 09:51:46
- conversely (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Feb 21, 09:46:27
  - The squad not being good enough had nothing to do with it? (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 21, 10:11:18
    - not saying that at all (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Feb 21, 11:56:17
      - The biggest change I can see post-tenure is expectations (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 21, 12:06:49
        
        stone him (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Feb 21, 12:41:28
        
        I think all of that was inevitable... (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 21, 12:47:49
        
        Will history determine that Buendia was the key, not DF? (n/m) (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Feb 21, 13:04:33
        
        Both? (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 21, 13:30:41
        
        And most fans didn’t want him to start with (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 21, 12:55:37
        
        Agreed (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Feb 21, 13:28:50
        
        You lead & we follow. Always thought that. (n/m) (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Feb 21, 13:02:08
  - I think gambling on an up and coming manager (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 21, 10:01:33
- He was Ranieri’s coach at Leicester when they won the league (NCFC) - JoeyDeacon, Feb 21, 09:36:22
  - VMT^100 (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 21, 09:38:46
    - tbh I thought Shakey's CV was a better fit than Smith's (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Feb 21, 09:48:47
      - Also testament to just how magical those 2 seasons were (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 21, 10:03:36
- Very interesting (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 21, 09:21:54
  - Listen,if you can't get your message across clear enough for the players to understand (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Feb 21, 09:40:24
    - Did you not read what I said? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 21, 09:45:20
      - I think I misunderstood it,but it's poorly worded and contradictory, I do apologise thoug (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Feb 21, 09:50:51
        
        Accepted (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Feb 21, 10:02:27
- You've missed "The way he eats pies" (n/m) (NCFC) - Trent_Canary, Feb 21, 08:52:42

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