If it can’t be turned around easily

Why sack Smith now and not play out the season and spend the next 6 months arranging the succession?

Re contract, it all comes down to money and how much of a pay off managers want to secure. After Schalke I doubt Wagner would want to be saddled with being at a financially weak club if we don’t go up so I’d have thought you could agree a figure in how much he’d want to be paid for coming in to try to get us up and walking if he can’t, how much of a bonus he’d want for getting us up, etc etc.

And if we can’t agree that sort of arrangement with someone out of work, maybe we *do* need to be looking at a long term rebuild now instead, and writing off promotion this year.

Posted By: CWC on January 2nd 2023 at 11:41:36

Message Thread

Wagner feels like a lazy ass low risk Webber appointment (NCFC) - fal5taff, Jan 2, 08:27:21
- Ass...I thought it was Arse in the UK... (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Jan 2, 12:18:59
  - A$$ (n/m) (NCFC) - ChampsChamps2023, Jan 2, 13:59:46
- Lazy perhaps. Not sure it's low risk. Anyway Farke was the lazy appointment too (NCFC) - jAC, Jan 2, 11:31:07
- Comes back to why have we sacked Smith ‘now’ (NCFC) - CWC, Jan 2, 10:53:43
  - Hit the ground running? (NCFC) - usacanary, Jan 2, 12:22:44
    - Are there? (NCFC) - CWC, Jan 2, 12:51:28
      - While Wagner seems like a safe option it... (NCFC) - usacanary, Jan 2, 14:40:44
      - “ and wouldn’t cause untold gnashing of teeth off of on here.” (NCFC) - APB, Jan 2, 13:55:58
  - Not sure any decent manager would risk their reputation on a short term deal (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 2, 10:58:03
    - If it can’t be turned around easily (NCFC) - CWC, Jan 2, 11:41:36
      - Because his form was awful (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 2, 13:00:38
      - Got to be a bit of both hasn't it? (NCFC) - Cardiff Canary, Jan 2, 11:50:38
        
        KK would be a gamble for the interim aim (NCFC) - CWC, Jan 2, 12:08:24
    - Re: turned round easily, I don’t think there’s a huge amount of turning to do (NCFC) - APB, Jan 2, 11:01:58
      - The form, is what i meant (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 2, 11:03:30
- Totally see this viewpoint (NCFC) - seminated_woolly, Jan 2, 09:16:26
  - I don’t see that it an easy appointment (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 2, 09:53:46
    - I don't think it's easy, and it would leave him open to criticism (NCFC) - seminated_woolly, Jan 2, 13:02:01
    - Easy or lazy? (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 2, 10:09:15
      - Ah, already covered! (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 2, 10:10:05
        
        I think I’m my own, id be pleased with wagner (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 2, 10:13:27
        
        I’m with you on Wagner 👍 (n/m) (NCFC) - helvegtheowl, Jan 2, 10:25:06
        
        It's a risk for Webber's personal stock. (NCFC) - norwaay, Jan 2, 10:24:17
        
        Also, why cant wagner be part of the succession plan? (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 2, 10:40:49
        
        Bowkett I believe (n/m) (NCFC) - jAC, Jan 2, 11:32:52
        
        Ha, maybe it was (NCFC) - norwaay, Jan 2, 11:02:23
        
        Agreed (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 2, 11:17:57
        
        I 100% agree (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 2, 11:04:33
        
        Wasn’t scouring the globe said when Adams was appointed? (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Jan 2, 10:57:54
        
        Yes (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 2, 11:01:19
        
        I agree (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 2, 10:32:35
        
        Could be both brave and lazy (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Jan 2, 10:36:29
- Who do you think would be better? (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 2, 08:40:05
  - In fairness, it isn't for us supporters to identify the next lower league coach/manager (NCFC) - seminated_woolly, Jan 2, 09:18:20
    - Lazy appointment . (NCFC) - Kev33, Jan 2, 10:03:54
      - I don't see why you think Wagner would be any less hungry or ambitious. (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Jan 2, 10:25:14
      - Mark Robins better than Wagner? (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 2, 10:12:37
    - I struggle with that a little to be honest (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 2, 09:53:06

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