Life is shades of grey dear boy

it was blatantly appalling that fans (some with kids) got tear gassed after waiting for hours due to logistical f*ups.

Falling into the narrative that *all* Liverpool fans are victimised and put upon and there isn't a problematic sub-group is equally unhelpful.

Ultimately, as a fan of a different club, I find it hard to care, beyond the embarrassment that so called fans of England and Liverpool and Rangers bring on other British teams.

Posted By: Cardiff Canary on May 30th 2022 at 09:31:01

Message Thread

Hopefully they apologise (Other Football) - SCC 28, May 30, 09:16:08
- Pre-filtering at the stadium showed 70% of tickets were fake (Other Football) - Ben, May 30, 15:02:14
  - it is very unlikely that those numbers are correct (Other Football) - Henclrikus, May 30, 15:35:58
- I had a number of friends and family who went. (Other Football) - AvengingCanary, May 30, 11:40:50
- Looking on the bright side (Other Football) - Old Git, May 30, 11:36:38
  - 😂 (n/m) (Other Football) - Azteca, May 30, 11:38:55
- I've been watching a lot of French media since this debacle (Other Football) - shoddy, May 30, 09:41:18
  - Incorrect, some Liverpool fans did show up without tickets or with fakes, (Other Football) - I Am H2O, May 30, 10:40:52
    - And when you get a tiny minority doing things they shouldn't you manage that appropriately (Other Football) - norwaay, May 30, 10:49:54
      - VMT ✅ (Other Football) - SimonOTBC, May 30, 11:01:01
  - Surely there’s some middle ground here? (Other Football) - APB, May 30, 10:26:59
    - Correct. There would have been fault in a lot of areas I'm sure (Other Football) - Azteca, May 30, 10:56:56
    - "our independent and well-scrutinised media" (Other Football) - shoddy, May 30, 10:45:14
      - The French media I have looked at... (Other Football) - mr carra, May 30, 11:10:14
      - here is an example of french media / government meeting the real world (Other Football) - shoddy, May 30, 10:56:40
        
        Not sure what’s so wrong with that, tbf (n/m) (Other Football) - APB, May 30, 13:40:40
    - Surely the main issue is that their ticket checking procedure (Other Football) - jamesward, May 30, 10:31:12
      - Yep which began hours before kick off (Other Football) - SCC 28, May 30, 10:38:02
  - Some liverpool fans did and at least one twat (Other Football) - Azteca, May 30, 09:47:30
    - Well that defo explains everything (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, May 30, 09:53:53
      - Well it doesn't but it does explain that ticketless fans was part of it (Other Football) - Azteca, May 30, 09:57:41
        
        Dearie me (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, May 30, 09:59:57
        
        I know. So close to the Anniversary of Heysel, too (n/m) (Other Football) - Azteca, May 30, 10:01:36
        
        Yea exactly multiple factors Klopp (n/m) (Other Football) - loz, May 30, 09:59:56
        
        Encouraging thousands to turn up without tickets another (n/m) (Other Football) - loz, May 30, 10:00:14
    - Weren’t the fake ones e-tickets on phones etc ? (n/m) (Other Football) - loz, May 30, 09:48:49
      - having a workflow/security for dealing with fake tickets (Other Football) - Cardiff Canary, May 30, 09:51:17
        
        Agree (Other Football) - ChampsChamps2023, May 30, 13:33:49
      - The french are sticking to the story that the liverpool fans wanted paper tickets (Other Football) - shoddy, May 30, 09:50:06
        
        Would make sense but why were the issues all at one end ? (n/m) (Other Football) - loz, May 30, 09:51:20
        
        They weren’t (Other Football) - SCC 28, May 30, 09:55:26
        
        I guess the english were targetted by the locals (n/m) (Other Football) - shoddy, May 30, 09:54:12
        
        And the Spanish (Other Football) - SCC 28, May 30, 09:56:29
- Life is shades of grey dear boy (Other Football) - Cardiff Canary, May 30, 09:31:01
  - The vast majority were (Other Football) - SCC 28, May 30, 09:34:23
    - I find it hard to think of a reason (Other Football) - Cardiff Canary, May 30, 09:40:35
      - But there were issues with both sets (Other Football) - SCC 28, May 30, 09:53:15
        
        Sorry, but I don't trust Twitter as a reliable source (Other Football) - Cardiff Canary, May 30, 09:56:18
        
        Eh it’s a Spanish media article (Other Football) - SCC 28, May 30, 09:58:06
        
        Bye then (n/m) (Other Football) - Wrath analytica, May 30, 10:01:09
- Do we know how many rocked uo (n/m) (Other Football) - loz, May 30, 09:29:51
  - Police on french radio said 30 or 50k (n/m) (Other Football) - Dave in France, May 30, 09:39:59
    - its utter shite Dave (Other Football) - shoddy, May 30, 09:42:27
  - Up with fake tickets ? (n/m) (Other Football) - loz, May 30, 09:30:02
    - Clearly there were some and will always be (Other Football) - SCC 28, May 30, 09:40:44
      - I blame the blockchains (n/m) (Other Football) - Augustus Pablo, May 30, 09:59:03
        
        Essex blames Brexit (n/m) (Other Football) - paulg, May 30, 12:43:49
        
        Yep (n/m) (Other Football) - ChampsChamps2023, May 30, 12:46:07
        
        No way bro,blockchain is infallible. (n/m) (Other Football) - protheroe fitzgibbon, May 30, 12:38:01
        
        Exactly (Other Football) - ChampsChamps2023, May 30, 12:47:44
      - ahhh Paris in the Spring (Other Football) - Cardiff Canary, May 30, 09:43:50
        
        I managed to avoid it there (Other Football) - SCC 28, May 30, 10:02:06
        
        St Denis is one of the poorer parts of Paris (n/m) (Other Football) - APB, May 30, 10:29:26
      - For sure shambolic policing Klopp also should take his share of the blame … (Other Football) - loz, May 30, 09:42:25
        
        yep, who in their right mind would want to spend time in Paris (Other Football) - shoddy, May 30, 09:43:32
        
        I've always found it a bit weird when people travel without tickets (Other Football) - Cardiff Canary, May 30, 09:47:21
        
        Reckless and irr sponsible (n/m) (Other Football) - loz, May 30, 09:57:49
        
        Irresponsible from klopp (n/m) (Other Football) - loz, May 30, 09:57:59
        
        Your one-eyed hatred of Liverpool is doing you zero favours here. (Other Football) - norwaay, May 30, 10:32:31
        
        The actual Liverpool site urged ticketless fans not to travel … (Other Football) - loz, May 30, 11:08:08
        
        If they’d sent them to Rwanda it would’ve solved the problem (Other Football) - ChampsChamps2023, May 30, 13:39:18
        
        Yes, I get that you're not really that interested in what *actually* happened. (n/m) (Other Football) - norwaay, May 30, 11:20:52
        
        Panicky police make shocking judgement calls and innocent … (Other Football) - loz, May 30, 11:25:35
        
        Panicky 🤣🤣 (Other Football) - SCC 28, May 30, 11:38:28
        
        No I’m saying it’s a contributory factor that Liverpool club comms… (Other Football) - loz, May 30, 11:58:28
        
        Yep, that's what he's saying. (Other Football) - norwaay, May 30, 11:55:29
        
        VMT (n/m) (Other Football) - SCC 28, May 30, 10:41:57

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