Agree - but the biggest issue here is that he recognised this two years ago.

He talked about the power and athleticism necessary for the Premier League and then singularly failed to deliver it.

I hold him responsible but I do wonder how the conversations with Farke went. We're told that the latter asked for a Prem quality centre back and a CDM - and clearly didn't get them. But I wonder if was in any resistent to the broader 'slam in some muscle' mantra.

Total conjecture but just trying to find a way to somehow excuse at least some elements of Webber's pitiful year.

Posted By: norwaay on May 24th 2022 at 09:41:27

Message Thread

Deano says he wants players with the athleticism to press. That kinda rules out most of (NCFC) - The Gaffer, May 24, 08:50:42
- fantastic succession planning. A whole new squad with a whole new philosophy (NCFC) - Garboldisham, May 24, 14:48:30
- But Webber hates the press…I’ll get my summer jacket (n/m) (NCFC) - MonkeyPuzzle, May 24, 12:04:55
- Pressing and athleticism is as mental as it is physical. (NCFC) - lurd, May 24, 10:44:29
  - Salah, Mane and Diaz are all incredible athletes! (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, May 24, 11:24:46
  - ^^^ this (n/m) (NCFC) - CWC, May 24, 10:55:09
- The club's been saying that for YEARS (NCFC) - Old Git, May 24, 10:05:03
- That sounds like a throwaway comment which is difficult to argue with. (NCFC) - Legacy Fan, May 24, 09:42:18
- Arguably Webber’s biggest fuck up… (NCFC) - loz, May 24, 08:55:24
  - I have to say, so much of it is about effort and mentality. (NCFC) - APB, May 24, 18:56:53
  - Yeah but the philosophy didn’t work (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, May 24, 09:52:39
  - Agree - but the biggest issue here is that he recognised this two years ago. (NCFC) - norwaay, May 24, 09:41:27
    - Correction (NCFC) - Old Git, May 24, 10:06:23
      - 😄 (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, May 24, 10:07:34
    - I really think Rashica and Sargent were supposed to be (NCFC) - jamesward, May 24, 09:51:10
      - Yes (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, May 24, 10:07:45
      - Ha ha. I was! (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, May 24, 10:06:40
    - Whatever the reasons and truth the table doesn't lie and Webber is accountable. (NCFC) - munter, May 24, 09:48:18
      - now we'll never know (NCFC) - paulg, May 24, 10:13:33
        
        agree - which is probably why we ought to give DS and Shaky a chance. (NCFC) - munter, May 24, 10:37:56
        
        BWOD TRIGGER WARNING - DO NOT READ THIS POST (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, May 24, 10:24:54
        
        Trigger warnings are too woke apparently (n/m) (NCFC) - ChampsChamps2023, May 24, 10:48:49
        
        I'm prepared to change my mind about trigger warnings (NCFC) - paulg, May 24, 12:17:53
        
        I’ll think about it (n/m) (NCFC) - ChampsChamps2023, May 24, 14:11:18
        
        well, that'll make a pleasant change (NCFC) - paulg, May 24, 14:22:49
        
        This is a good point and puts the lie to Webber's "send into battle" guff. (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, May 24, 10:23:57
        
        Yep, pretty obvious when two managers have exactly the same issues (NCFC) - jamesward, May 24, 10:17:41
      - Nail on head there, feller (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, May 24, 10:07:06
      - Agree (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, May 24, 09:50:39
      - A bit? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 24, 09:49:24
        
        indeed. trying to be rational. i am furious really. feel very disconnected at the moment. (n/m) (NCFC) - munter, May 24, 10:12:53
        
        Same here….I’m as disillusioned as I can remember and bloody hell I’ve witnessed (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, May 24, 10:30:26
        
        Six relegations in our last eight Premier League campaigns. (NCFC) - norwaay, May 24, 10:40:46
        
        The concern is the margin of relegation (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 24, 10:44:53
        
        *Webber era (n/m) (NCFC) - CWC, May 24, 10:59:49
        
        Yep (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 24, 11:05:48
        
        Hell's teeth, that's a stat (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, May 24, 10:53:12
        
        It's not relegation though, is it? (NCFC) - jamesward, May 24, 10:43:21
        
        I feel worse than I did with the Hamilton / Roeder / Grant eras tbh - and they were bad (n/m) (NCFC) - munter, May 24, 10:35:20
        
        That's to do with expectation though (NCFC) - jamesward, May 24, 10:39:16
        
        v.true (n/m) (NCFC) - munter, May 24, 10:45:44
  - I agree…we changed style and tried to fit square pegs in round holes (NCFC) - BINMEN8R, May 24, 09:22:06
  - ⬆️ obsessed with Webber (n/m) (NCFC) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, May 24, 08:59:06
    - VMT it’s unhealthy (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, May 24, 09:08:02
      - You guys 😘 (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, May 24, 09:14:34

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