Better, but no cigar sadly

This video will help you better understand what happened to the rise of far right nationalism in Ukraine after the flashpoint of Putin's initial aggressions in Crimea, Donbas etc.

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You'll be particularly interested in the bit which shows that support for far right parties has gone down from 10% in 2012 to 2% at the point that Zelensky was elected (with 73% of the vote).

There is greater support for the far right in France. Perhaps we should denazify them and destroy Lyon or something.

The video also covers the AZOV battalion (not a political party!) and their links to the far right.

The 11 political parties which were banned have direct links to Russia which does seem kinda fair when it's that country trying to blow you to bits.

Either way though - it does remain hard to shake off the view that you have entirely lapped up the Russian propaganda narrative for some reason and have no interest in questioning any element of it.

Hopefully this video will be educational.

Posted By: norwaay on March 29th 2022 at 17:27:51

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i think it is safe to say that russia isn't doing as well as it had hoped (General Chat) - Tombs, Mar 29, 14:19:32
- Blimey, this thread is still going! (n/m) (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Mar 29, 21:12:45
- Have you caught the C4 Falklands doc? (General Chat) - CWC, Mar 29, 20:34:59
  - i caught a bit of it the other night (General Chat) - Tombs, Mar 29, 21:31:30
- Tis all rather scary frankly. (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Mar 29, 16:30:31
  - Abramovic has passed a note from Zelensky to PooTin (General Chat) - KevinBond, Mar 29, 16:48:51
    - So many little men on the planet who just want power over others and willing.. (General Chat) - DrDublin, Mar 29, 17:04:00
- Those not wishing to know the result should look away now (n/m) (General Chat) - MonkeyPuzzle, Mar 29, 15:16:18
- What’s the source though? (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Mar 29, 15:10:48
  - the source is oryx (General Chat) - Tombs, Mar 29, 15:22:06
- Hopefully he's got a few more tanks to fight these lot off (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 14:56:57
  - ADL are bastards. I used to work for them and they fucked (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 29, 15:31:58
  - Just had a quick read around this particular topic. No doubt you've done the same. (General Chat) - norwaay, Mar 29, 15:14:53
    - Interesting fella (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 15:50:39
      - Do you think Ukraine are the bad guys in all this? (n/m) (General Chat) - jamesward, Mar 29, 15:53:42
        
        Erm not really (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 16:03:30
        
        "What Russia Is doing" (General Chat) - paulg, Mar 29, 17:27:26
        
        He can't answer that question. (General Chat) - norwaay, Mar 29, 21:02:10
        
        Oh look Phil trying to be a smart Arse. (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 21:22:26
        
        Trolleys not accepting euros? (n/m) (General Chat) - Chris Peacock, Mar 29, 20:55:44
        
        roubles (General Chat) - Tombs, Mar 29, 21:03:16
        
        Leaving paper, screws and assorted detritus in your overalls pocketsduring the wash? (n/m) (General Chat) - Maillot Jaune, Mar 29, 18:58:04
        
        contrails? (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Mar 29, 16:10:18
        
        I think you have a look at state department records they confirm they are there (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 16:12:46
        
        unlike you (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Mar 29, 16:20:20
      - Well yes, that's the point he was making. (General Chat) - norwaay, Mar 29, 15:53:31
        
        Ok just one person in his bedroom and 5k dead okey dokie (n/m) (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 16:04:13
        
        "okey dokie" isn't really a rigorous, evidenced argument I'm afraid. (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Mar 29, 16:07:07
        
        I'm not arguing (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 16:10:53
        
        I think the point you're failing to grasp here (General Chat) - norwaay, Mar 29, 16:30:17
        
        I don't live on Twitter or can be arsed looking for numbers you crave (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 16:46:13
        
        This is taking a while isn't it? (General Chat) - norwaay, Mar 29, 16:54:50
        
        Allegations lol (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 17:11:37
        
        Better, but no cigar sadly (General Chat) - norwaay, Mar 29, 17:27:51
        
        Yep Russian propaganda ok (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 19:03:19
        
        You posted "western mainstream media" to back up your argument. (General Chat) - norwaay, Mar 29, 19:38:20
        
        A documentary filmed for the bbc... it not the bbc news channel is it (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 19:44:44
        
        It's not a documentary, it's a report. (General Chat) - norwaay, Mar 29, 19:51:49
        
        I didn't mean that one, like I said earlier I've not got time time to troll (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 20:01:36
        
        So we're now going back more than 10 years? (General Chat) - norwaay, Mar 29, 20:16:11
        
        The picture looks pretty familiar to nazism (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 20:24:30
        
        You're not supporting your own argument. (General Chat) - norwaay, Mar 29, 20:31:12
        
        You won't convince him. He gets his kick from being different and knowing better (General Chat) - The Gaffer, Mar 29, 17:36:48
        
        Behave yourself (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 19:12:27
        
        If you’re saying you’re just being different for the sake of it.... (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Mar 29, 20:01:04
        
        Two sides to every storey (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 20:07:59
        
        You've questioned it. You've been provided with answers. You've chosen to ignore them. (General Chat) - norwaay, Mar 29, 20:21:21
        
        You've provided me with nothing really? (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 20:33:33
        
        You're now just lying I'm afraid. (General Chat) - norwaay, Mar 29, 20:38:12
        
        Lying? (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 20:44:41
        
        So we're onto the unverified tiktok videos from 'hebreo777' etc stage of your argument? (General Chat) - norwaay, Mar 29, 20:53:31
        
        Because Twitter doesn't hide facts (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 20:55:30
        
        I can verify that more people vote for far right parties in France than in Ukraine. (General Chat) - norwaay, Mar 29, 21:01:02
        
        Course it did - the country with the highest corruption rates in Europe! (n/m) (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 21:17:44
        
        But it doesn't mean that France should be blown to bits. (General Chat) - norwaay, Mar 29, 21:32:17
        
        France isn't on Russias border tho is it (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 21:44:16
        
        No we don't need to worry about France. (General Chat) - norwaay, Mar 29, 21:52:31
        
        It's over run with all sorts to be brutally honest but that's another day. (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 22:54:11
        
        I don’t think it’s a bad quality to question things and consider alternative viewpoints (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Mar 29, 20:20:21
        
        I haven't said it's wrong at all tho. (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 20:29:54
        
        give today's jon pienaar show a lug if you have time it's only 7 or 8 minutes (General Chat) - Tombs, Mar 29, 20:51:23
        
        Maybe I’ve missed slime thing, (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Mar 29, 20:32:32
        
        ....something... (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Mar 29, 20:34:19
        
        Quite something that your Qanon episode taught you nothing (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 29, 20:12:09
        
        Ahh here he is... that laptop you kept sayi (n/m) (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 20:15:49
        
        What laptop did I keep saying about? (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 29, 20:38:19
        
        And I know it’s tempting to give you attention (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 29, 20:41:56
        
        Brainwashed just like you and covid (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 20:58:38
        
        Wow slam dunk! (General Chat) - SCC 28, Mar 29, 21:02:38
        
        Yeah ok.... (n/m) (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 21:16:22
        
        Saying was fake news.... how's that playing out? (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 20:16:34
        
        So if not innocent, what are all the dead people guilty of? (General Chat) - tudders, Mar 29, 19:49:38
        
        Right (General Chat) - ParrotPuncher, Mar 29, 20:12:55
        
        I know (General Chat) - norwaay, Mar 29, 17:40:12
        
        The trouble is, you can prove anything with facts. (n/m) (General Chat) - tudders, Mar 29, 18:33:57
        
        😂 (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Mar 29, 18:34:25
    - there's actually more of them in the russian army... (General Chat) - Tombs, Mar 29, 15:35:18
      - russian far right nationalism (General Chat) - Tombs, Mar 29, 15:54:46
        
        Because, and somewhat ironically (General Chat) - norwaay, Mar 29, 15:57:02
  - Jesus, the absolute state of the twitterers you must follow to have even found that. (n/m) (General Chat) - Under soil heating, Mar 29, 15:13:59
    - "The Home Of Free Speech" - locks replies on this post so no-one can comment 😄 (n/m) (General Chat) - norwaay, Mar 29, 15:51:06
  - What a bizarre thing to post (General Chat) - Ken Dodds Dads Dog, Mar 29, 15:09:24
  - have you been living under a rock? (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Mar 29, 15:08:26
    - Slugs often do (n/m) (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 29, 15:23:44
- So basically he's managed to decimate his army, strengthen (General Chat) - CB41, Mar 29, 14:54:03
- Imagine if they went against the whole of NATO (n/m) (General Chat) - Azteca, Mar 29, 14:47:01
  - never mind NATO, I bet the Poles are itching to go in (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Mar 29, 14:53:11
    - all that free scrap metal! (n/m) (General Chat) - Tombs, Mar 29, 15:09:09
      - ha ha (n/m) (General Chat) - shoddy, Mar 29, 19:34:57
      - Nawty Mr Tombs!!! (n/m) (General Chat) - DrDublin, Mar 29, 17:20:49
        
        not meant in a racialistics way dubbs (General Chat) - Tombs, Mar 29, 17:40:52
      - History tells us to be wary about scrap metal coming from Russia; (General Chat) - JoeyDeacon, Mar 29, 15:57:18
      - They could mend everything. (General Chat) - tudders, Mar 29, 15:43:30

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