But what if a person is either beyond reform, or in no need of reform?

On your argument, they wouldn't be punished at all, because they'd be no need.

As OG said, it's an expression of societal revulsion.

Posted By: paulg on September 30th 2021 at 13:57:05

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Hanging is too good for him (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Sep 30, 12:52:03
- Those using this as a stick to beat the police with need to take a breath (General Chat) - Munich93, Sep 30, 18:36:33
- I have little faith in the police, womeb shouldresist arrest, its better than being killed (n/m) (General Chat) - KevinBond, Sep 30, 13:54:36
  - So one lunatic means all male police officers are bad ? (n/m) (General Chat) - loz, Sep 30, 14:23:38
    - His nickname was "The Rapist" its more than one lunatic (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Sep 30, 15:17:45
      - That’s pure speculation isn’t it ?… (General Chat) - loz, Sep 30, 15:30:22
        
        Try these then (General Chat) - megson, Sep 30, 15:44:24
        
        one person's (untested) experience, recounted on twitter? (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 30, 15:55:04
        
        Read the replies, multiple stories, or try this (General Chat) - megson, Sep 30, 15:56:59
        
        Isn’t it like any walk of life … (General Chat) - loz, Sep 30, 16:07:31
        
        Places like the police and army do attract cunts (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 30, 16:13:38
        
        So do message boards tbf (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Sep 30, 16:26:03
        
        Yes social media has a large share (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 30, 16:28:19
        
        Oh Mikey....you just got smashed and didn't even realize... (General Chat) - usacanary, Sep 30, 20:29:13
        
        Impressive that you’re able to admit that 👍 (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 30, 16:27:54
        
        The unexamined life is not worth living, Simon (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Sep 30, 16:30:36
        
        Fucking idiot you are. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 30, 16:17:50
        
        That’s settled then (n/m) (General Chat) - loz, Sep 30, 16:16:29
        
        It’s a fact yes (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 30, 16:19:36
        
        Good stuff (n/m) (General Chat) - loz, Sep 30, 16:20:32
        
        It’s not good at all (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 30, 16:24:32
        
        You are a wanker. You have researched information that supports your point (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 30, 16:33:38
        
        That’s fantastic news they aren’t the LAPD (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 30, 16:35:16
        
        You're being a bigger penis than normal. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 30, 16:37:32
        
        Had no idea it would be so controversial (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 30, 16:43:53
        
        You what? (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 30, 16:47:57
        
        So the army are ok then? Good stuff (n/m) (General Chat) - loz, Sep 30, 16:27:01
        
        Nope not at all (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 30, 16:33:38
        
        I’m not but you aren’t exactly balanced … (General Chat) - loz, Sep 30, 16:36:23
        
        Of course the vast majority are decent (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 30, 16:38:39
        
        Very disappointed in you once again. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 30, 16:44:32
        
        Big business and government. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 30, 16:41:09
        
        You may be right not sure how you would ever prove that though … (General Chat) - loz, Sep 30, 16:40:18
        
        Higher % of psychopaths in police services than in the general population (General Chat) - seminated_woolly, Sep 30, 17:03:53
        
        Crack on then boy. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 30, 16:35:37
  - WTF some ones got some issues (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 30, 14:19:56
  - That's part of why what he did is so very appalling. (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 30, 13:57:53
    - Policing of lockdown was a shambles (n/m) (General Chat) - KevinBond, Sep 30, 14:01:36
      - Are you fucking serious? She wasn't arrested she was kidnapped (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Sep 30, 15:02:45
        
        well actually she was arrested for an actual offence (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 30, 17:53:04
      - I’m struggling to see any relevance at all (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 30, 14:28:53
        
        She was arrested for breaking lockdown. (n/m) (General Chat) - KevinBond, Sep 30, 14:33:51
        
        no (General Chat) - Chris Peacock, Sep 30, 15:14:26
        
        Yes, I don’t think he was acting in line with official police guidance (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 30, 14:36:19
        
        He was a rogue police officer manufacturing a situation… (General Chat) - loz, Sep 30, 14:35:05
      - Which aspect of policing lockdown ? (n/m) (General Chat) - loz, Sep 30, 14:28:18
        
        Abducting, raping and murdering! (n/m) (General Chat) - KevinBond, Sep 30, 14:29:15
        
        You said policing of lockdown was a shambles … (General Chat) - loz, Sep 30, 14:33:25
        
        They might despise him but they have to take ownership of the fact that he was one of them (General Chat) - APB, Sep 30, 14:59:05
        
        He was also a human....maybe we should all take ownership (n/m) (General Chat) - usacanary, Sep 30, 20:30:55
        
        Bit all or nothing, no? (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Sep 30, 21:44:05
        
        Do you take that view (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 30, 17:11:09
        
        Hating people as a group because of the actions of a few is... (General Chat) - usacanary, Sep 30, 20:33:21
        
        Think that is very harsh tbh (n/m) (General Chat) - loz, Sep 30, 15:23:16
        
        It's not harsh, I'm suggesting they should do more to look at themselves... (General Chat) - APB, Sep 30, 16:34:52
        
        Isn’t that what the IPCC is for?… (General Chat) - loz, Sep 30, 16:38:19
        
        I didn't deny many do good work. (General Chat) - APB, Sep 30, 16:42:47
        
        "clearly a problem"? (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 30, 17:13:41
        
        Well, the reason why we’re discussing this, for one… (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Sep 30, 19:56:48
        
        He was caught by the Police, at least. (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 30, 17:14:31
        
        VMT (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Sep 30, 17:05:36
      - It's worse in aussie by the looks of it. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 30, 14:20:29
- I say a knitting needle up the japs eye…..ouch. (n/m) (General Chat) - Biggles, Sep 30, 13:37:33
  - Some people do that do fun (General Chat) - Jumbo1, Sep 30, 17:41:04
- I have been against the death penalty for most of my adult life (General Chat) - Old Git, Sep 30, 13:12:54
  - The death penalty doesn't act as a deterrent and there is the risk of killing the innocent (General Chat) - Old Man, Sep 30, 17:44:21
  - I object to the death penalty because I don’t trust the state (General Chat) - matgore, Sep 30, 14:28:11
  - Yeah can’t ever condone capital punishment though. But I can understand why some (General Chat) - Legacy Fan, Sep 30, 13:57:57
    - Trust me - I’ve been there, and hanging IS too good for him (n/m) (General Chat) - helvegtheowl, Sep 30, 15:17:27
  - Vmt.the death sentence, as you all know doesn't work as a deterrent, but spend (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 30, 13:39:15
    - Seems to be a bit of a male issue mostly, I’m ashamed to say (General Chat) - APB, Sep 30, 13:46:41
      - You're right yes,I'm old enough to know I react differently to men than I do (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 30, 13:59:29
  - And what good does killing him do? (General Chat) - seminated_woolly, Sep 30, 13:37:05
    - Well (General Chat) - Old Git, Sep 30, 13:50:27
      - The money spent on possibly reforming a prisoners (General Chat) - seminated_woolly, Sep 30, 14:59:51
    - It's a punishment. (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 30, 13:49:01
      - Disagree strongly, reform has to be part of someone's rehabilitation (General Chat) - seminated_woolly, Sep 30, 13:54:11
        
        Doesn’t a whole life sentence mean that there is no reform element to his punishment? (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 30, 14:23:43
        
        Reform can be spiritual, internal, religious (General Chat) - seminated_woolly, Sep 30, 14:48:59
        
        I'm not sure you can "reform " a narcissistic sociopath. You can certainly address the co (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 30, 14:16:08
        
        And if they are a Psychopath then they require (General Chat) - seminated_woolly, Sep 30, 14:50:44
        
        I said sociopath, neither are mental health conditions. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 30, 15:02:21
        
        Well mental illnesses for the pendants. (n/m) (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 30, 15:04:44
        
        Your original point has never stood (General Chat) - Old Git, Sep 30, 14:05:06
        
        My point isnt only based on comforting the ladies family (General Chat) - seminated_woolly, Sep 30, 15:01:34
        
        If you take someone like Levi Bellfield as an example (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 30, 14:28:13
        
        If they are a psychopath then they have a personality and or mental health disorder (General Chat) - seminated_woolly, Sep 30, 14:55:34
        
        That doesn't mean they don't have the capacity to make an informed (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 30, 15:14:26
        
        Oh yes,that freak deserves a different kind of justice imo.like the (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 30, 14:33:34
        
        But what if a person is either beyond reform, or in no need of reform? (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 30, 13:57:05
        
        And who makes the judgement that they are beyond reform? (n/m) (General Chat) - seminated_woolly, Sep 30, 14:56:10
        
        In this case, the judge (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 30, 16:22:53
      - All right Immanuel (n/m) (General Chat) - Old Git, Sep 30, 13:51:29
  - hes a cop (General Chat) - big member, Sep 30, 13:26:52
    - a cop in a jail (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 30, 13:35:07
      - It will cost the taxpayer more because we live in a nanny state and they won’t want to see (General Chat) - Biggles, Sep 30, 13:36:49
        
        Make him a Eunice! (n/m) (General Chat) - fareastcanary, Sep 30, 15:54:15
        
        Dino h! (n/m) (General Chat) - fareastcanary, Sep 30, 15:54:56
        
        Yeah! (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Sep 30, 16:35:58
        
        Bloody I phone! Castrate him. Make him a Eunice (n/m) (General Chat) - fareastcanary, Sep 30, 15:55:53
        
        Eunoch. (n/m) (General Chat) - fareastcanary, Sep 30, 15:56:21
        
        Make him a Eunice all right. Not an Enoch though. (n/m) (General Chat) - APB, Sep 30, 16:31:40
        
        if you believe that killing is bad (General Chat) - big member, Sep 30, 13:41:30
    - Yes, Mrs Git said that (General Chat) - Old Git, Sep 30, 13:29:55
      - hard cases, bad law and all that. (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 30, 13:51:30
  - Yep, its not one I'd put any effort in to resisting (n/m) (General Chat) - megson, Sep 30, 13:18:51
- Am i the only one who thinks that comment was not appropriate (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 30, 13:01:19
  - Dunno if you’re the only one, but I disagree that it was inappropriate (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 30, 14:24:42
    - It was clear that he didn't say it in jest (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 30, 14:34:39
      - He used an expression which is often used in a light hearted way (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 30, 14:45:49
      - You haven't got a sense of humour anyway and you've clearly (General Chat) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Sep 30, 14:39:44
        
        no sense of humour (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 30, 14:48:13
      - Fair enough, i still don’t see it as inappropriate but it doesn’t matter if we disagree (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 30, 14:38:24
        
        hang on mate not so fast .. this is the WOTB (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 30, 14:51:25
        
        Oh, sorry (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 30, 16:27:16
        
        I was called a kant earlier on, but hey, I'm cool with that (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 30, 14:53:37
  - Maybe, I'm sure no malice was intended though. (General Chat) - NxNW, Sep 30, 13:08:54

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