Sure

I wouldn't care if we WERE paying him £5m a year!

But there's a fairly obvious point here, which is that a player who's available for free knows that he can ask for much higher wages (and/or a "signing on fee"). So you don't know how good a "free" really is until you know how much you agree to pay in wages to secure it.

Posted By: Old Git on April 22nd 2021 at 15:17:47

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Drmic going back to earning 50K a week according to Nick Mashiter (n/m) (NCFC) - thirsty work, Apr 22, 13:38:03
- Apparently not true (NCFC) - Under soil heating, Apr 22, 14:09:55
  - Better negotiated contracts than Naismith era then (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Apr 22, 14:11:47
    - Naismith was loaned out & wages partly recouped (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Apr 22, 14:38:09
      - its better because we won promotion with better players.... (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 22, 22:32:43
      - Well better if there is no automatic pay rise or promotion bonus... (NCFC) - loz, Apr 22, 14:43:12
        
        Leitner is a very talented player - shame it hasn't worked out for him (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 22, 14:50:35
        
        Clearly has issues.... (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 22, 22:34:06
        
        Weird he never got a club his agent said he had lots of offers etc (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Apr 22, 15:00:47
        
        He must be on a good contract (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 22, 15:01:21
        
        Wouldn’t expect him to walk away but if you believe mashiter... (NCFC) - loz, Apr 22, 15:20:16
        
        City staff costs in 19/20 were 30% more (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Apr 22, 15:09:36
        
        Presumably the PL money was bigger in 19/20 than it was in 15/16? (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 22, 15:13:06
        
        You and your "facts" (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 22, 22:36:09
        
        Yea it’s usually a % of (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Apr 22, 15:18:32
- Naismith Mark 2 (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 22, 14:02:03
  - it's only money 🤷‍♂️ (n/m) (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 22, 14:31:08
    - ^^ perfect client (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 22, 14:43:54
      - well wha eye mean is (NCFC) - Tombs, Apr 22, 15:14:49
        
        Fisher, Dogger, German Bight (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 22, 15:18:31
- so much for being a "free transfer" (n/m) (NCFC) - pab, Apr 22, 13:58:52
  - I think free transfers always involve paying people wages. (n/m) (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Apr 22, 14:06:35
    - Paying wages is obscene - (NCFC) - CB41, Apr 22, 15:07:51
    - I think his point is that if the lack of transfer fee is offset by paying extortionate (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 22, 14:47:47
      - I'm not sure you can prop up this point by just making figures up. (NCFC) - norwaay, Apr 22, 15:09:03
        
        Sure (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 22, 15:17:47
        
        True (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Apr 22, 15:46:36
      - I would have thought players on a free might get a big signing on bonus (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 22, 14:55:38
        
        Yes, that's pretty standard too (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 22, 15:19:07
        
        Our wage bill is known and isn't excessive. (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Apr 22, 15:09:45
        
        Not our Playing Staff wage bill. (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Apr 22, 15:19:37
        
        You seem to have a real axe to grind on financial matters (n/m) (NCFC) - loz, Apr 22, 15:22:58
        
        I look beyond the headlines (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Apr 22, 15:36:37
        
        It's kind of inevitable wastage in football, isn't it? (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Apr 22, 16:15:33
        
        So we should just accept it? (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Apr 22, 17:21:52
        
        We are spending what we earn (NCFC) - norwaay, Apr 22, 18:43:23
        
        This is usac territory (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Apr 22, 19:24:32
        
        Apologies for my typo. (NCFC) - norwaay, Apr 22, 19:54:41
        
        well (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Apr 22, 20:22:29
        
        Thanks for reinforcing my point 👍 (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Apr 22, 20:26:56
        
        Depends what the alternative is I would imagine. (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Apr 22, 15:47:37
        
        Well I would listen to the Webber podcast... (NCFC) - loz, Apr 22, 16:16:51
        
        your credulity is astounding. (n/m) (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Apr 22, 17:32:41
        
        as is your condescension (NCFC) - Garboldisham, Apr 22, 20:17:24
        
        I offer facts & figures (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Apr 22, 20:38:20
        
        You opinions are shit.....Thanks for playing..... (n/m) (NCFC) - usacanary, Apr 22, 22:43:01
    - 😂 (n/m) (NCFC) - norwaay, Apr 22, 14:27:22
- Drmic has another year on his contract with us, does he? (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Apr 22, 13:43:03
  - Yep, three year deal (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 22, 13:52:58
- Yep - and a big promo bonus (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 22, 13:38:47
  - You'd hope we may and occasionally get incoming bonuses on these players (NCFC) - Azteca, Apr 22, 14:27:53
  - i would hope we have done a better job with these promo bonus - you get one assuming (NCFC) - pinkney, Apr 22, 13:57:43
  - No qualms about TK,I know it's not Drmic's fault but it leaves abit (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Apr 22, 13:42:53
    - Same with Naismith getting a bonus two seasons ago (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Apr 22, 13:52:25

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