I never said it was

but the point is that they haven't helped or lifted the team in the slightest, which is surely what you'd want them to do given what you say about the apprently inevitable attitude of the players who were relegated.
And what have the "on Loan" T-shirts got to do with anything? haven't seen any of those this year.
Expectations are not caused by some belief in a divine right to be in the Prem (as you keep suggesting), they come from the club's healthy financial position which teh club themselves was always telling us about. It is not unreasonable that the more resources you have available the higher your expectations should be. that is true of everything in life.

Posted By: mr carra on April 7th 2006 at 11:16:47

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For happy times, mail Arganth@pollyanna.com (n/m) (NCFC) - Dog, Apr 7, 10:33:06
- Recipient not known. (NCFC) - Arganth, Apr 7, 10:38:12
  - God you are so miserable (NCFC) - earlydoors, Apr 7, 10:45:07
    - how right you are ........ (n/m) (NCFC) - south, Apr 7, 11:01:02
    - No, thats Tudders. (n/m) (NCFC) - lovely old job, Apr 7, 10:46:05
  - I respect you for standing by your opinion... (NCFC) - Dog, Apr 7, 10:41:49
    - Indeed. But, there have been significant facts offered as alternative for him staying... (NCFC) - Arganth, Apr 7, 10:49:57
      - doesnt look like they have been giving a shit for 9 months anyway (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 7, 11:01:08
      - surely... (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 7, 10:55:33
      - Re: Point Two... (NCFC) - Dog, Apr 7, 10:54:42
        
        I think the relegation factor has been under estimated. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Apr 7, 10:55:45
        
        yeah cos worthy couldnt get them motivated/ morale up could he?? (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 7, 11:02:11
        
        I think its been overestimated (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 7, 11:01:18
        
        But it's not just the new players. (NCFC) - Arganth, Apr 7, 11:11:48
        
        I never said it was (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 7, 11:16:47
        
        Presuming our finances are healthy. (NCFC) - Arganth, Apr 7, 11:18:13
        
        In which case, why not? (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 7, 11:22:43
        
        We had a budget of ?4.5m on promotion. (NCFC) - Arganth, Apr 7, 11:28:13
        
        Promotion is worth about ?35m (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 7, 11:31:11
        
        That includes bollocks like... (NCFC) - Arganth, Apr 7, 11:43:28
        
        so how much DOES the club get? (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 7, 11:49:39
        
        3 million on a striker when the midfield needed improving?? (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 7, 11:29:29
        
        If the boss appointed the right people he could turn things around quickly, though. (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Apr 7, 11:15:05
        
        Only with a huge amount of luck or money (or both though)... (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Apr 7, 11:17:13
        
        worthys wasted a huge amount of money (for this division) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 7, 11:28:35
        
        Oh for gods sake. (NCFC) - Arganth, Apr 7, 11:31:04
        
        you dont lose it to the taxman..... how many times has this been discussed (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 7, 11:40:48
        
        there are special laws you lose nothing (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 7, 11:41:41
        
        that tax argument is a f*cking urban myth (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 7, 11:39:35
        
        we HAD a huge chunk of money (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 7, 11:25:12
        
        See above. (n/m) (NCFC) - Arganth, Apr 7, 11:28:54
        
        Worthys had the money, he has spent 10m getting us to where we were when he started (n/m) (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Apr 7, 11:22:55
        
        Or better judgement? (n/m) (NCFC) - Ottosson Foxtrot, Apr 7, 11:21:38
        
        Possibly. But if he had 100% third eye-style judgement... (NCFC) - Arganth, Apr 7, 11:34:18
        
        rather than defensive midfield plodders (n/m) (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 7, 11:39:27
        
        Can't disagree with anything that you say there. (n/m) (NCFC) - Dog, Apr 7, 11:03:43
        
        yeah its fucked Palace right up (n/m) (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Apr 7, 10:58:38
        
        But southampton look at them!! (NCFC) - phrankin, Apr 7, 11:03:15
    - But that's not his opinion, to be fair... (NCFC) - Orlando, Apr 7, 10:43:11
      - surely even if he goes in the summer.. (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 7, 10:49:20
      - Well he was of the opinion (below) that Hughes will come good. (NCFC) - Dog, Apr 7, 10:47:52
        
        This board are well known for their smoke and mirrors. (NCFC) - Arganth, Apr 7, 10:54:56
        
        But what, precisely, do we gain from not telling the fans that Worthy will be going? (NCFC) - Dog, Apr 7, 10:58:50
        
        Cos we're not that sort of club. (NCFC) - Arganth, Apr 7, 11:00:42
        
        that's why we never really progress. Attitude in the Prem was appalling (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 7, 11:07:29
        
        I agree with you there. (NCFC) - Dog, Apr 7, 11:02:28
        
        But we've always been like that. (NCFC) - Arganth, Apr 7, 11:13:00
        
        I think the board are quite comfortable sitting on their hands... (NCFC) - Dog, Apr 7, 11:30:16
        
        Nothing will ever change at the club as long as (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Apr 7, 10:50:31
        
        disagree (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 7, 11:04:37
        
        But would you sack your best buddy? (n/m) (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Apr 7, 11:12:20
        
        but that is a different argument (NCFC) - mr carra, Apr 7, 11:19:22
        
        I think its a mix of both (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Apr 7, 11:25:56
        
        How do you know they're best buddies. (NCFC) - Arganth, Apr 7, 11:15:40
        
        I dont, but its pretty clear that Worthy is "well in" with the board (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Apr 7, 11:19:53
        
        agree with Mr C (n/m) (NCFC) - Brandonio, Apr 7, 11:08:36
  - Or somebody living in a dream world? (n/m) (NCFC) - DiscoDaleGordon, Apr 7, 10:40:25

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