masks do work. but there's no single magic bullet

closest is a functioning track & trace system, along with support to help people isolate. for example, appears to be what is making the difference in germany. unfortunately we don't have that - we have Serco.

Posted By: jampersands on October 22nd 2020 at 13:04:48

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People are starting to have enough now (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 12:28:31
- Blame the shambles of a Govt you voted in (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Oct 22, 16:25:04
  - I don't care which (NCFC) - Captain Bligh, Oct 22, 17:06:23
    - He strghles to understand that every country in world has suffered (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 17:12:42
      - It wasn't specifically aimed (NCFC) - Captain Bligh, Oct 22, 17:25:45
        
        Cheap point scoring - I think it’s always been the case for the so called left (n/m) (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 17:36:41
        
        Every side does it (NCFC) - Captain Bligh, Oct 22, 17:47:19
      - New Zealand? (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Oct 22, 17:20:19
        
        New Zealand (NCFC) - Captain Bligh, Oct 22, 17:30:56
        
        Let’s not forget we didn’t attempt to suppress it until late March (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 22, 18:03:12
        
        Yes, and remember (NCFC) - Captain Bligh, Oct 22, 18:40:51
        
        But the orange baboon needed to ban Europe not China (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 22, 19:09:56
        
        Going off piste a bit (NCFC) - Captain Bligh, Oct 22, 19:42:38
        
        Indeed (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 22, 20:26:44
        
        Is ruled by Mary Poppins (NCFC) - KevinBond, Oct 22, 17:35:28
- This is now day 207 for me without a penny of support. (NCFC) - Canary Birdie, Oct 22, 16:18:08
  - I got 570 on furglough a month for 4 months nothing else (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 17:14:03
- ONS figures today show half of all businesses have turnover lower than operating costs (n/m) (NCFC) - Larry Hagman, Oct 22, 12:52:42
  - Ah, but that's "the economy" so it doesn't count (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Oct 22, 13:07:24
  - My missus has her own salon (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 12:58:39
- Taking the piss out of legislation (NCFC) - KevinBond, Oct 22, 12:48:36
- perhaps if people had (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Oct 22, 12:36:44
  - Whilst that's true (NCFC) - Captain Bligh, Oct 22, 14:22:15
    - yes you're right (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Oct 22, 16:36:08
  - Completely agree (NCFC) - Timmy_Goat, Oct 22, 13:09:47
    - other countries give people support to isolate (NCFC) - jampersands, Oct 22, 13:13:16
      - But there is support payments for self isolation or am I mistaken? (n/m) (NCFC) - KetteringRyu, Oct 22, 15:58:40
      - My friend lives in Spain (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 14:19:47
        
        So ditch the restrictions and masks? (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 22, 14:28:26
        
        Where’s the so called science that proofs they work (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 14:33:57
        
        masks *do* work, they're just not foolproof and there are other means of transmission (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 22, 16:28:58
        
        Angry little man aren’t you (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 17:15:57
        
        stating the facts - no one likes fact-averse fools like you. (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 22, 17:20:18
        
        No facts state they work (n/m) (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 17:37:55
        
        whatever (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 22, 17:43:12
        
        Well don’t say they do when you can’t back it up (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 17:48:06
        
        I can, but I'm done with you. You're a cultist, too far gone (n/m) (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 22, 17:52:51
        
        Brainwashed never to recover (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 22, 18:04:34
        
        Down the rabbit hole (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Oct 22, 19:27:12
        
        Show me then.... get your peers to send them across (n/m) (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 18:07:06
        
        Show you what? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 22, 18:12:34
        
        Until the governments scientists saw the evidence (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 22, 16:11:24
        
        Again, transmissions probably in the home etc (NCFC) - jamesward, Oct 22, 14:22:22
        
        Where are they getting it from? (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 14:28:14
        
        I'm sure they didn't all wear masks all the time (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Oct 22, 14:49:37
        
        That’s all you have? (n/m) (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 14:56:29
        
        This is boring now (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Oct 22, 15:07:09
        
        Its quite simple, it can be passed from hands to face...all of us touch the mask and our (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Oct 22, 15:06:45
        
        Agreed, I saw an interesting study on transmission in meatpacking plants (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 22, 16:52:26
        
        That's very interesting! I new about the temp. control and lack of distancing (NCFC) - Maillot Jaune, Oct 22, 19:40:08
        
        I thought it was from eating bats (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 17:17:19
        
        Peer reviewed scientific studies in respected journals, not Facebook or crackpot youtubers (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 22, 17:22:53
        
        Lol that actually made me laugh (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 17:46:58
        
        I don't use facebook or watch youtube (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 22, 17:54:51
        
        Haha like I said I see your tweets (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 18:12:00
        
        VMT (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 22, 17:36:37
      - From what I read about it (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 22, 14:02:41
      - Track, trace and isolate becomes increasingly more difficult (NCFC) - jamesward, Oct 22, 13:47:01
        
        track n trace thats a joke (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Oct 22, 14:00:08
        
        Track and trace don’t matter another waste of money (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 15:04:58
  - Masks don’t work tho do they (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 12:56:49
    - They work for droplet transmission, minimally for aerosol (NCFC) - Timmy_Goat, Oct 22, 13:15:24
      - The evidence indicates that most people only infect an average of 1 other (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 22, 16:37:03
    - Blimey you thought masks worn occasionally would stop cases rising? (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 22, 13:08:25
      - No. We were told to wear masks to prevent infection (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 13:25:41
        
        Except (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 22, 14:06:05
        
        £12 billion well spent then (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Oct 22, 19:37:06
        
        there are lots of different initiatives and actions that reduce infections (NCFC) - jampersands, Oct 22, 13:37:31
        
        The right lol (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 14:04:02
        
        Didn’t cause a spike did it (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 22, 14:08:24
        
        Large groups side by side close contact (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 14:17:17
        
        Could defo do it socially distanced and with masks (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 22, 14:29:43
        
        But the protests here and in America (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 22, 14:34:37
        
        Why? New York has been smashed and continues to be the highest rates (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 14:52:54
        
        New York first hit (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 22, 15:01:08
        
        And if you believe that you are mad (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 15:22:21
        
        India? (NCFC) - jamesward, Oct 22, 16:24:01
        
        South Dakota just behind North Dakota (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 22, 16:18:35
        
        Even Chris Christie regrets not wearing a mask (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 22, 16:26:54
        
        Big don doesn’t (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 17:20:09
        
        More about New York (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 15:51:29
        
        we were told to wear masks to encourage people to feel safe (NCFC) - CWC, Oct 22, 13:28:18
        
        By the government yes, not the science (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Oct 22, 14:10:57
        
        Exactly (n/m) (NCFC) - Pukki Pies, Oct 22, 13:59:49
    - masks do work. but there's no single magic bullet (NCFC) - jampersands, Oct 22, 13:04:48
    - Most transmission has been in homes, student accommodation or hospitality (NCFC) - jamesward, Oct 22, 13:00:54
      - Glad taxpayers don't subside their education. Especially those slapped with the 10k fine (n/m) (NCFC) - KetteringRyu, Oct 22, 16:01:41
      - And orgies (NCFC) - Old Git, Oct 22, 14:00:53
        
        ... (NCFC) - Chris Peacock, Oct 22, 14:22:39
        
        No confirmed cases in gimps, I understand (n/m) (NCFC) - jamesward, Oct 22, 14:20:38

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