Some of the issues are these:
1) There is good-enough free-to-view content available covering what Archant papers cover, and now always will be.
2) Archant wants to sell you "a newspaper". But pretty much no-one wants to read "a newspaper". Each person will read a different selection of articles based on their interests. So what the newspapers want to sell and what the punters want to buy are two different things. This rarely goes well for whoever's selling. I don't believe the Times, the Telegraph etc do well from their paywalled offererings. The two papers which do do well, financially at least, from online are the FT and the Mail. No-one really matches the FT at what they do, and the Mail (which lest we forget is *not* behind a paywall) has perfected, well, calling it the worst kind of sordid clickbaitery rather gives away my own prejudices, but there it is.
3) Advertisers have much more targetted ways of reaching their own audiences than newspapers can offer. Facebook are best at this but most SM players are much better than any print title can really hope to be, as are the like of Google who use the content of your gmail account and your search history to target ads at you, Microsoft who...well, you get the idea.
4) The likes of Google in particular aggressively target copyright in jurisdictions around the world, so that they can display in search results content it's cost other people (e.g. newspapers) to produce. The more they can show, the less likely it is that the newspaper's site gets clicked on. Google gets the ad revenue, not the newspaper. Google doesn't pay the journalists, of course.
5) For the Oink'un in particular, being nose-in-cheek with the club used to pay benefits: inside scoops and so on. But now the club has its own media operation and uses that rather than selective leaks to/stories with Archant to get its story across. Criticise the club = lose access. But have access = print what the club will promulgate itself anyway. Again, not a happy space to attempt to inhabit.
6) Interesting pay-per-view options like Axate are around but I've no idea how successful they are, or ever will be.
Posted By: Old Man on October 9th 2020 at 19:59:41
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- A Serious Question (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Oct 9, 13:50:47
- Some of the issues are these: (NCFC) - Old Man, Oct 9, 19:59:41
- You lovely little bugger. If you can help Joanne please do. (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Oct 9, 20:32:30
- I work for a successful subscription service (NCFC) - Worzel Scrimmage, Oct 9, 20:30:04
- Yeah that model - high value, low volume, intelligent curation - works well (NCFC) - Old Man, Oct 9, 20:34:30
- Any Mary option? I deffo wouldn’t pay for it (NCFC) - Jumbo1, Oct 9, 19:20:10
- Thanks for the responses (except The Idiot) (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Oct 9, 15:05:30
- why is wanting Newcastle to pay half idiotic? (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Oct 10, 01:41:33
- I'd pay a bit IF it improved and IF it stopped with the pop ups etc (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Oct 9, 15:12:03
- I wouldn't pay a brass nickel for any football related content ever not in a month of wedn (NCFC) - Tombs, Oct 9, 16:32:59
- Yes the content is poor (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Oct 9, 15:18:35
- It was called the PravdaUn on here back in the dark days! (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Oct 9, 15:44:38
- Need to maintain access otherwise they end up like Gillingham press, on scaffolding (NCFC) - Pixelman, Oct 9, 15:41:45
- the days of a local 'paper being the mouthpiece are over (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Oct 9, 15:24:21
- I don't mean mouthpiece like that per se.... (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Oct 9, 15:29:53
- it is amazing that the Reeve Twins can get in-depth player interviews (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Oct 9, 15:41:50
- Yes, although SexyB was suggesting the players don't like them (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Oct 9, 15:59:24
- it is amazing that the Reeve Twins can get in-depth player interviews (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Oct 9, 15:41:50
- I don't mean mouthpiece like that per se.... (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Oct 9, 15:29:53
- Interesting, Since Webber I've always seen them as the clubs least favourite outlet... (NCFC) - glasgow, Oct 9, 15:21:36
- If that's the case then the lack of good content is down to poor journalism (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Oct 9, 15:27:51
- most of the answers below were that people would be prepared to pay? (n/m) (NCFC) - jampersands, Oct 9, 15:08:55
- 3 out of 8 said they would pay (n/m) (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Oct 9, 15:26:40
- I don't ever look at it because its full or intrusive adverts and tracking bollocks (NCFC) - Ben, Oct 9, 14:24:26
- Yeah - but have you actually seen what happened next?! (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Oct 9, 15:34:35
- You won't believe what Ben looks like now!!! (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Oct 9, 15:45:43
- Well, let us hope he looks nothing like (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Oct 9, 16:00:39
- Haha, that was my old housemate (n/m) (NCFC) - Ben, Oct 9, 16:04:52
- always assumed it was you, channeling yr inner Kardashian (n/m) (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Oct 9, 16:08:37
- Haha, that was my old housemate (n/m) (NCFC) - Ben, Oct 9, 16:04:52
- Well, let us hope he looks nothing like (NCFC) - Henclrikus, Oct 9, 16:00:39
- You won't believe what Ben looks like now!!! (n/m) (NCFC) - Old Git, Oct 9, 15:45:43
- This (n/m) (NCFC) - yellowman, Oct 9, 14:51:16
- Agree totally with Ben. To use the name Pink 'UN with all (NCFC) - Chopper, Oct 9, 14:31:03
- Newspapers en masse fucked up (NCFC) - jamesward, Oct 9, 14:26:00
- Yeah - but have you actually seen what happened next?! (n/m) (NCFC) - paulg, Oct 9, 15:34:35
- b0 I could livw with £10pa (NCFC) - KevinBond, Oct 9, 14:22:24
- C if it really did improve (NCFC) - jamesward, Oct 9, 14:19:40
- (a) - I don't really look now, when it's free! (n/m) (NCFC) - Worthing Yellow, Oct 9, 14:10:51
- Ideally c (NCFC) - Mr Creosote, Oct 9, 13:59:52
- B) but Only if Newcastle pay half (n/m) (NCFC) - essexcanaryOTBC, Oct 9, 13:51:22
- Some of the issues are these: (NCFC) - Old Man, Oct 9, 19:59:41
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