Simplest to just apply 'clear and obvious' to offside decisions

If you're having to painstakingly review multiple frames of footage over several minutes, its neither clear nor obvious.

Saves arguments over nargin of error, lines, frames, and avoids creating different interpretations of offside across the VAR and non VAR game.

If you give a 30cm margin of error, I guarantee that PL players will practise judging how to be 20-25cm offside for starting their runs etc. You're basically sanctioning breaking the rules.

We dont want milimeter perfect offside calls. We just want to minimise the frequency of obviously wrong ones.

Posted By: CWC on January 8th 2020 at 11:24:57

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My solution for VAR and offside (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jan 8, 09:48:04
- I'd love to hear the conversations whilst they are deciding the outcome (n/m) (NCFC) - BSE Canary, Jan 8, 12:03:12
- Simplest to just apply 'clear and obvious' to offside decisions (NCFC) - CWC, Jan 8, 11:24:57
- scrap offside (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Jan 8, 11:03:49
- I think Declan's suggestion below is one of the best i've heard. (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 8, 10:37:03
  - ^^^ no CWC is right ^^^^ (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Jan 8, 11:45:14
  - Definitely (NCFC) - mr carra, Jan 8, 10:48:42
- won't you still have the problems (NCFC) - paulg, Jan 8, 10:17:53
- The whole of the ball has to be over the line. Why not the whole of the body past... (NCFC) - APB, Jan 8, 09:57:57
  - Dead heat is onside (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 8, 10:22:19
    - Hasn't been one though (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 8, 10:28:26
      - Yes - make them 20-30cm thick if thats the margin of error (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 8, 10:37:47
      - Although people will then just go mental when a very marginal ONside goal (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 8, 10:31:01
        
        Well, they shouldn't be flagging anything marginal off (NCFC) - mr carra, Jan 8, 10:33:32
        
        Yeah, think they only let it carry on if someone is in on goal (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 8, 10:34:56
        
        Although in the Palace game the linesman were definitely flagging for offsides so (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 8, 10:38:34
        
        Not quite sure why he flagged (NCFC) - mr carra, Jan 8, 10:43:37
        
        In real time it did look miles offside though (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 8, 10:47:27
        
        Last season that would've been offside (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Jan 8, 11:02:30
        
        It was also offside if you used the next frame (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 8, 10:50:02
  - Wouldn’t that lead tot he same issue, but with a different point of reference? (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 8, 10:12:46
  - Also cf. cricket and “umpire’s call”. (NCFC) - APB, Jan 8, 10:06:33
    - This, I think (NCFC) - mr carra, Jan 8, 10:31:24
      - Yeah, everyone just shrugged their shoulders and said (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 8, 10:32:51
        
        quite (NCFC) - paulg, Jan 8, 10:43:03
    - Vmt. (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 8, 10:14:57
  - Missing ? there. I don’t like that. (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Jan 8, 09:58:24
- Just review offside via tv replay at side of pitch (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 8, 09:52:52

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