won't you still have the problems

associated with speed - eg which frame does one take for the comparison - the Pukki decision seemed to have bene made at a moment when the ball was about 2m from Vrancic's foot - and won't you still have problems with v close decisions, drawing impossible lines etc?

I think the solution has to be based on some notion of what is clear and obvious - let the refs/linesmen decide unless plain as a pikestaff they got it wrong - use it to avoid dreadful decisions not try to achieve scientific accuracy at all costs (including time/enjoyment)

Posted By: paulg on January 8th 2020 at 10:17:53

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My solution for VAR and offside (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jan 8, 09:48:04
- I'd love to hear the conversations whilst they are deciding the outcome (n/m) (NCFC) - BSE Canary, Jan 8, 12:03:12
- Simplest to just apply 'clear and obvious' to offside decisions (NCFC) - CWC, Jan 8, 11:24:57
- scrap offside (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Jan 8, 11:03:49
- I think Declan's suggestion below is one of the best i've heard. (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 8, 10:37:03
  - ^^^ no CWC is right ^^^^ (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Jan 8, 11:45:14
  - Definitely (NCFC) - mr carra, Jan 8, 10:48:42
- won't you still have the problems (NCFC) - paulg, Jan 8, 10:17:53
- The whole of the ball has to be over the line. Why not the whole of the body past... (NCFC) - APB, Jan 8, 09:57:57
  - Dead heat is onside (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 8, 10:22:19
    - Hasn't been one though (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 8, 10:28:26
      - Yes - make them 20-30cm thick if thats the margin of error (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 8, 10:37:47
      - Although people will then just go mental when a very marginal ONside goal (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 8, 10:31:01
        
        Well, they shouldn't be flagging anything marginal off (NCFC) - mr carra, Jan 8, 10:33:32
        
        Yeah, think they only let it carry on if someone is in on goal (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 8, 10:34:56
        
        Although in the Palace game the linesman were definitely flagging for offsides so (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 8, 10:38:34
        
        Not quite sure why he flagged (NCFC) - mr carra, Jan 8, 10:43:37
        
        In real time it did look miles offside though (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 8, 10:47:27
        
        Last season that would've been offside (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Jan 8, 11:02:30
        
        It was also offside if you used the next frame (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 8, 10:50:02
  - Wouldn’t that lead tot he same issue, but with a different point of reference? (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 8, 10:12:46
  - Also cf. cricket and “umpire’s call”. (NCFC) - APB, Jan 8, 10:06:33
    - This, I think (NCFC) - mr carra, Jan 8, 10:31:24
      - Yeah, everyone just shrugged their shoulders and said (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 8, 10:32:51
        
        quite (NCFC) - paulg, Jan 8, 10:43:03
    - Vmt. (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 8, 10:14:57
  - Missing ? there. I don’t like that. (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Jan 8, 09:58:24
- Just review offside via tv replay at side of pitch (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 8, 09:52:52

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