My solution for VAR and offside
So, as far as I am aware the biggest arguments about VAR this season have been handball and offside. Not gonna address the handball rule as that's a whole different discussion but I think there is a way to simplify the offside rule to suit VAR checks better, which also makes it easier for footballers to judge. I think a big part of the problem is that the current VAR implementation forgets that footballers are human beings.
Simply make it only about parts of the body touching the ground or where they last touched the ground. Other parts of the body should be irrelevant. This way, a superior athlete is not punished for a better body lean than the defender (this is what happened with Pukki). Since offside is designed to prevent "goal hanging" and unfair "head starts" on attacking runs, the only thing which would really give an advantage would be those parts of the body which are propelling the footballer (usually feet). An arm, head or other parts of the body being in an offside position doesn't really give any advantage if they are not moving.
So, 99% of the time this will be the feet. I don't care so much about how it is implemented as long as it is clear - there are many options. For example: both feet have to be level or behind the defender's feet, at least one foot has to be, or both or one foot as to partially break the plane of at least one of the defender's feet etc.
When I say where the body part last touched the ground, this is to avoid a ridiculous loophole where the attacker or defender jumps just before the ball is played to negate an offside position. The reason I suggest body part touching the ground rather than simply the feet, is because a defender could throw himself to the ground toward his own goal to block a first time shot
It is simple, and far easier to prove with VAR. The officials in games without VAR only need to focus across the line on one area at a time to check for offside. It is also better for the footballer because (in my experience of sports coaching at least) it is far easier to judge and control the positioning of the feet than to also judge where the end of your head is, or to adapt your running style to avoid a hand offside, or as somebody mentioned to point to where the ball should be played without suddenly being offside. It's also similarly clearer for the defenders to judge.
Posted By: Steve in Holland on January 8th 2020 at 09:48:04
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- My solution for VAR and offside (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Jan 8, 09:48:04
- I'd love to hear the conversations whilst they are deciding the outcome (n/m) (NCFC) - BSE Canary, Jan 8, 12:03:12
- Simplest to just apply 'clear and obvious' to offside decisions (NCFC) - CWC, Jan 8, 11:24:57
- scrap offside (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Jan 8, 11:03:49
- I think Declan's suggestion below is one of the best i've heard. (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 8, 10:37:03
- ^^^ no CWC is right ^^^^ (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Jan 8, 11:45:14
- Definitely (NCFC) - mr carra, Jan 8, 10:48:42
- won't you still have the problems (NCFC) - paulg, Jan 8, 10:17:53
- The whole of the ball has to be over the line. Why not the whole of the body past... (NCFC) - APB, Jan 8, 09:57:57
- Dead heat is onside (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 8, 10:22:19
- Hasn't been one though (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 8, 10:28:26
- Yes - make them 20-30cm thick if thats the margin of error (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 8, 10:37:47
- Although people will then just go mental when a very marginal ONside goal (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 8, 10:31:01
- Well, they shouldn't be flagging anything marginal off (NCFC) - mr carra, Jan 8, 10:33:32
- Yeah, think they only let it carry on if someone is in on goal (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 8, 10:34:56
- Although in the Palace game the linesman were definitely flagging for offsides so (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 8, 10:38:34
- Not quite sure why he flagged (NCFC) - mr carra, Jan 8, 10:43:37
- In real time it did look miles offside though (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 8, 10:47:27
- Last season that would've been offside (NCFC) - strap_on sally, Jan 8, 11:02:30
- It was also offside if you used the next frame (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 8, 10:50:02
- In real time it did look miles offside though (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 8, 10:47:27
- Not quite sure why he flagged (NCFC) - mr carra, Jan 8, 10:43:37
- Although in the Palace game the linesman were definitely flagging for offsides so (NCFC) - Jim, Jan 8, 10:38:34
- Yeah, think they only let it carry on if someone is in on goal (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 8, 10:34:56
- Well, they shouldn't be flagging anything marginal off (NCFC) - mr carra, Jan 8, 10:33:32
- Hasn't been one though (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 8, 10:28:26
- Wouldn’t that lead tot he same issue, but with a different point of reference? (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Jan 8, 10:12:46
- Also cf. cricket and “umpire’s call”. (NCFC) - APB, Jan 8, 10:06:33
- This, I think (NCFC) - mr carra, Jan 8, 10:31:24
- Yeah, everyone just shrugged their shoulders and said (NCFC) - duke of york, Jan 8, 10:32:51
- Vmt. (n/m) (NCFC) - protheroe fitzgibbon, Jan 8, 10:14:57
- This, I think (NCFC) - mr carra, Jan 8, 10:31:24
- Missing ? there. I don’t like that. (n/m) (NCFC) - APB, Jan 8, 09:58:24
- Dead heat is onside (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 8, 10:22:19
- Just review offside via tv replay at side of pitch (NCFC) - SCC 28, Jan 8, 09:52:52
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