who made the actual call do you think? the ref or the var ref?

or maybe the linesmanwomanpersonofficerassistant is tasked with looking at this? either way it'd take s**t hot clarity and vision to make a call like that without oh, i dunno, the ability to review the play on screen?

i think games are practically being reffed remotely not sure if that's necessarily good for the game. why bother having refs at the game at all just have a jury of 12 refs with a judge ref who has a casting vote and they all get 30 seconds to make a decision on every single passage of play that one or the other side doesn't agree with.

Posted By: Tombs on December 2nd 2019 at 08:25:23

Message Thread

Does the encroachment law actually say anything about only applying if the player clears (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 2, 07:16:08
- Rule is going, isn't it? (NCFC) - Jester, Dec 2, 18:44:48
- As I said late yesterday, Hernandez did exactly the same on the 2nd penalty (NCFC) - Charles21, Dec 2, 09:55:05
  - The players can’t be getting told (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 2, 09:58:23
    - well Hernandez needs seriously to be told (n/m) (NCFC) - Charles21, Dec 2, 10:23:34
    - Tbh, they really shouldn't need telling (n/m) (NCFC) - Azteca, Dec 2, 10:05:05
      - Well it’s a new rule for them (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 2, 10:09:28
        
        They should probably be told to stop giving penalties away too (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Dec 2, 10:10:44
  - I don't know why players don't take a run up (NCFC) - duke of york, Dec 2, 09:57:46
    - I think a couple of ours tried that on the second one (n/m) (NCFC) - megson, Dec 2, 10:04:32
- the prem rules seem more lenient (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 2, 08:10:32
  - This happened when Madders scored for Leicester (NCFC) - duke of york, Dec 2, 09:31:30
    - Yeah seems very harsh - this covers all of that (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 2, 09:41:29
  - What I don’t like or understand is why our referees seem to have been given (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 2, 08:34:16
    - if it's technically correct how are they making up the rules? (NCFC) - CWC, Dec 2, 09:45:38
      - They’ve applied it (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 2, 09:50:38
    - it wasn't minor (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 2, 08:37:51
      - They were nowhere near it. We had about three players there. As I said (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 2, 08:41:17
        
        Good point from ESPN journo after the game (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 2, 08:58:59
        
        Encroaching is not worth it but not sure I agree they can’t impact. (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 2, 09:10:03
        
        If they impact then it’s a retake (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 2, 09:12:19
        
        Not if they haven’t encroached. They can still legally run in and beat the attacking (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 2, 09:13:33
        
        No he says don’t encroach! (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 2, 09:17:07
        
        I know that but it’s a stupid statement of the obvious from him really isn’t it (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 2, 09:24:32
        
        No need to take such a risk though (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 2, 09:33:12
        
        I blame Krul for not catching it (n/m) (NCFC) - duke of york, Dec 2, 09:35:09
        
        if the situation was reversed people would absolutely want to see it (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 2, 08:48:01
        
        Point is really that without VAR it wouldn’t have been notice or given and (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 2, 09:12:03
        
        It has improved the laws being applied (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 2, 09:15:05
        
        Well they may need to look at them. One of the perhaps unforeseen impacts of (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 2, 09:21:35
        
        Hopefully defenders just wait now (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 2, 09:46:54
        
        I don’t think Max’s encroachment was as bad as you’re making out (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 2, 08:59:30
        
        kruls developing antics will be outlawed next season (NCFC) - Tombs, Dec 2, 09:07:25
        
        He was clearly encroaching tbf (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 2, 09:03:14
        
        It's a simple rule that we broke (NCFC) - CauldRon, Dec 2, 09:07:46
        
        I think that’s right (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 2, 09:21:00
        
        I’m looking forward to the furore (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 2, 09:24:53
        
        It will be, you know it. VAR already gifted points to a couple of our rivals this season (n/m) (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 2, 09:29:10
        
        after zimbo’s fuck up as well (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 2, 09:19:11
        
        VMT (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 2, 08:53:44
        
        yep agree with that. (n/m) (NCFC) - Men without hats, Dec 2, 09:05:18
        
        thus it naturally loads the game in favour of better (richer) teams (NCFC) - Tombs, Dec 2, 08:59:25
        
        Or it favours the weaker teams (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 2, 09:10:17
        
        opinions eh, we should still start cheating just in case (NCFC) - Tombs, Dec 2, 09:14:50
        
        good luck there ralph (NCFC) - Tombs, Dec 2, 08:50:56
        
        Entut though (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 2, 09:17:29
        
        They are trying to repeat that famous sending off in front of the snakepit. Who was that? (n/m) (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Dec 2, 08:59:10
        
        Matthew Errington for West Ham in 2004 (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Dec 2, 09:09:23
        
        Yep (n/m) (NCFC) - Yellalee, Dec 2, 09:26:36
        
        I remember that. Was very funny (NCFC) - Tricky Hawes, Dec 2, 09:14:04
        
        I think we do, and yes it’s because of that (n/m) (NCFC) - Knitted Jesus, Dec 2, 10:18:17
        
        ^^^ were *not* anticipating (n/m) (NCFC) - Ralf Scrampton, Dec 2, 08:49:15
    - the just push an oppo player in the box tactic will evolve (NCFC) - Tombs, Dec 2, 08:37:12
      - Where in the rules does it state what “inside”‘the area is? (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 2, 08:42:25
        
        Arsenal took their free kick 30 cm forward of where the foul was (NCFC) - Charles21, Dec 2, 10:51:28
        
        The FA Handbook 2019 Association Football ver 1 section 14 para 3a sub para (ii) clearly (NCFC) - Tombs, Dec 2, 08:46:10
  - who made the actual call do you think? the ref or the var ref? (NCFC) - Tombs, Dec 2, 08:25:23
    - Var ref reviews all major incidents (n/m) (NCFC) - SCC 28, Dec 2, 08:52:06
    - That linesman was a t**t. Missed several things and yet gave a very marginal (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 2, 08:35:56
      - farke was telling in his post match comments on the 4th offficial (NCFC) - Tombs, Dec 2, 08:39:35
        
        Yes. The problem is that these things change the flow/course of the game (NCFC) - Jim, Dec 2, 08:44:19
        
        very lucky indeed (NCFC) - Tombs, Dec 2, 08:47:42
    - I'm not sure but the ref was super fussy about warning all the players about encroachment (NCFC) - Bravo win or die, Dec 2, 08:30:55
- No but......... (NCFC) - ghostof barry butler, Dec 2, 07:34:57
  - Does that mean we were adjudged to have entered the box first? (n/m) (NCFC) - SimonOTBC, Dec 2, 08:34:26
    - Dunno but arsenal player entered first on far side. Not sure about near side. Aarons could (NCFC) - Steve in Holland, Dec 2, 09:43:44

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