Yes - fair point. Only electable Labour Leader was Blair. Now reviled....
....due to his huge foreign policy error to go along with Bush in the Middle East. However to my recollection (and we always remember with rose tinted specs) his home policies were reasonably ok and he won 3 elections and had mot Gordon Brown been desperate to become PM he may well have won a 4th.
Other than the austerity policies (a big if I accept) the coalition government of 2010-2015 generally worked. Now all we have is polarisation. A big chunk of the electorate won't go near Corbyn as far too left wing. Similarly - especially after yesterday's appalling histrionics - many wont touch Boris. That leaves a middle ground to the Lib Dem's who may have shot themselves by committing to reversing Brexit unilaterally rather than a further referendum which I think most people could live with. God knows who would win a General Election but I suspect it would be nobody. My guess is that the Tories would have most seats but could not form a Govt whereby a coalition of Labour / Lib Dem and Nationalists (all of whom would have significant representation) possibly could find sufficient common ground. A further and final referendum would be held. However the price for agreeing that would be an essentially centralist coalition with someone like Tom Watson, Emily Thornberry, Hilary Benn or Yvette Cooper as PM. Depending on seats won maybe even Jo Swinson, but certainly not Jeremy Corbyn. This almost certainly won't happen so no idea where we will actually end up. Yesterday was an absolute disgrace to Parliament.
Posted By: Saucerer on September 26th 2019 at 09:50:44
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- There’s no credible alternative to Johnson.... (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 26, 11:12:04
- Corbyn's policies really aren't that radical. (General Chat) - Cannydc, Sep 26, 11:19:31
- I wouldn’t be in favour of giving 10% of companies to employees (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 26, 11:44:03
- Dyson's decision is nothing to do with Corbyn (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 26, 12:44:25
- Yes it is (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 26, 12:45:53
- Not wishing to do a SexyB on you, but it deffo is (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 26, 12:46:17
- Well this piece in the FT says it was purely a commercial decision (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Sep 26, 13:03:14
- Not wishing to do a SexyB on you, but it deffo is (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 26, 12:46:17
- Yes it is (n/m) (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 26, 12:45:53
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- does anybody call a dyson a hoover (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 26, 14:53:12
- Ironic as his hoovers are bagless (General Chat) - maidstoneyellow, Sep 26, 12:37:13
- Dyson's decision is nothing to do with Corbyn (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 26, 12:44:25
- the state of the UK in 1979 isn't a great advert for the status quo at that time!! (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 26, 11:31:05
- Nothing is perfect (General Chat) - Cannydc, Sep 26, 11:42:49
- the country was on its knees (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 26, 12:48:37
- The mining industry was doomed regardless of government, wasn’t it? (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 26, 11:44:59
- Yes, it certainly was. (General Chat) - Cannydc, Sep 26, 11:47:17
- Nothing is perfect (General Chat) - Cannydc, Sep 26, 11:42:49
- I wouldn’t be in favour of giving 10% of companies to employees (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 26, 11:44:03
- Fuck (n/m) (General Chat) - MORDENCANARY, Sep 26, 11:13:25
- Corbyn's policies really aren't that radical. (General Chat) - Cannydc, Sep 26, 11:19:31
- The problem is that the current model for capitalism isn't working for lots of people (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Sep 26, 10:30:12
- Its a bit of a mess isn't it usac? (n/m) (General Chat) - shoddy, Sep 26, 10:16:36
- Blair, Brown, Major and Hezza. (General Chat) - avenging canary, Sep 26, 09:52:18
- Yes - fair point. Only electable Labour Leader was Blair. Now reviled.... (General Chat) - Saucerer, Sep 26, 09:50:44
- Latest poll I saw on that Britain Elects Twitter account (General Chat) - duke of york, Sep 26, 10:43:29
- I think that's spot on. We need a government that tends to (General Chat) - Chopper, Sep 26, 09:26:15
- Move parliament ....... (General Chat) - yellowman, Sep 26, 09:06:21
- Move Parliament (General Chat) - Moritz Moutarde, Sep 26, 09:45:56
- I'd move it to the middle of the North Sea (n/m) (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 26, 09:54:55
- There have been quite a lot of suggestions about moving it to Manchester or Birmingham (General Chat) - Knitted Jesus, Sep 26, 09:44:38
- Move Parliament (General Chat) - Moritz Moutarde, Sep 26, 09:45:56
- Sadly most politicians these days have no experience of the real world (General Chat) - biffbro, Sep 26, 08:53:43
- As much as many would like this to be true (General Chat) - Cannydc, Sep 26, 09:36:35
- Sorry but disagree with your statistics (General Chat) - biffbro, Sep 26, 12:14:00
- it's a v big problem (General Chat) - paulg, Sep 26, 12:51:14
- Sorry but disagree with your statistics (General Chat) - biffbro, Sep 26, 12:14:00
- Enoch Powell? (General Chat) - Ralf Scrampton, Sep 26, 09:01:11
- Man of principal, didn’t say I agreed with him. (n/m) (General Chat) - biffbro, Sep 26, 09:16:50
- Principle. (General Chat) - APB, Sep 26, 13:04:36
- or his principal's principles (n/m) (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 26, 13:17:38
- "men of honour, great politicians" (n/m) (General Chat) - norway, Sep 26, 09:33:55
- Not necessarily great people, consider the recent vilification of Churchill and Washington (General Chat) - biffbro, Sep 26, 09:41:22
- so Churchill and Washington were not great people (n/m) (General Chat) - ghostof barry butler, Sep 26, 09:42:19
- Not necessarily great people, consider the recent vilification of Churchill and Washington (General Chat) - biffbro, Sep 26, 09:41:22
- Principle. (General Chat) - APB, Sep 26, 13:04:36
- Quite (n/m) (General Chat) - jAC, Sep 26, 09:14:28
- Man of principal, didn’t say I agreed with him. (n/m) (General Chat) - biffbro, Sep 26, 09:16:50
- As much as many would like this to be true (General Chat) - Cannydc, Sep 26, 09:36:35
- Bring back Cameron or Tony Blair (n/m) (General Chat) - Thegelman, Sep 26, 08:30:39
- It's impossible to get rid of Corbyn because the Labour (General Chat) - duke of york, Sep 26, 08:23:28
- Similar problem with johnson (General Chat) - CWC, Sep 26, 08:45:32
- There’s no credible alternative to Johnson.... (General Chat) - SimonOTBC, Sep 26, 11:12:04
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