FAO Old Git, re conversation last night
....about how appropriate it is or isn’t that the PM is being chosen by Tory party members.
Actually I wasn’t wearing ‘leftie specs’ at all, and your post re Gordon Brown, and all the PMs before who didn’t come to power through a general election, is missing the point.
In all previous cases, the new PM has been chosen by MPs. Either through an election amongst themselves or through a coronation. Now you can argue about the rights and wrongs of that, but those MPS were elected. And the ones choosing the new PM were elected with sufficient support to have a parliamentary majority. So you can argue that there is some democratic legitimacy to that. We chose our representatives, they are choosing the new PM.
This is different. Elected MPs are not choosing the new PM, for the first time. Instead the PM is being chosen by 120,000 Conservative party members, who were elected by no-one. And, in the short run at least, Tory MPs will have little choice but to support him or her, or face deselection themselves.
It’s a very strange way to choose a PM, and more questions should be being asked about it.
Posted By: Tricky Hawes on June 8th 2019 at 09:43:51
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- FAO Old Git, re conversation last night (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 8, 09:43:51
- It’s a grey area (General Chat) - matgore, Jun 8, 10:37:33
- MPs won’t vote to make that leader prime minister. No such vote exists. (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 8, 10:40:53
- No guarantee Tory members will get a vote (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 8, 15:23:09
- (So I’ve no idea where you get the ‘this is constitutionally correct’ thing from) (n/m) (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 8, 10:42:33
- Because Queenie appoints a PM (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 8, 11:16:01
- MPs won’t vote to make that leader prime minister. No such vote exists. (General Chat) - Tricky Hawes, Jun 8, 10:40:53
- I love this post! Looking forward to OG's reply (n/m) (General Chat) - Bravo win or die, Jun 8, 09:57:50
- Mostly likely won’t (n/m) (General Chat) - SCC 28, Jun 8, 13:23:28
- I was not aware of that. It is against parliamentary democracy, just as (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 8, 09:49:31
- Changed in '98 after the defeat to Blair (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 8, 10:04:10
- This is scary as the new "leader" effecively writes a new manifesto (General Chat) - biffbro, Jun 8, 10:23:46
- Yes, and it's not quite a gimme (General Chat) - Old Man, Jun 8, 10:15:56
- The only hope for the Tories is a Deal (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 8, 10:50:17
- Brutal deconstruction of Boris by Matthew Parris in the Times (General Chat) - Old Man, Jun 8, 11:38:58
- The only hope for the Tories is a Deal (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 8, 10:50:17
- Morning Steve ! (n/m) (General Chat) - Augustus Pablo, Jun 8, 09:54:55
- Morning (n/m) (General Chat) - Steve in Holland, Jun 8, 10:29:10
- Changed in '98 after the defeat to Blair (General Chat) - CWC, Jun 8, 10:04:10
- It’s a grey area (General Chat) - matgore, Jun 8, 10:37:33
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